Poll: Boris voters - is he camping with a baby?

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stockhausen said:
Actually, I think that you will find that the legislation says that you can "Roam", specifically that "You can exercise access rights for crossing land and water".

Really? Can you point me to the legislation that says you can set up a tent wherever you like in Scotland, that would be handy to know ;)

"Bad etiquette" - I must remember that handy phrase.
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I know I used the term right to roam but you seem to be indicating you think that means you must roam/can’t stop...

Have you never heard of wild camping?

Where in the legislation you refer to/seem to be quoting is it banned?

see below re: access code - "Access rights extend to wild camping" perhaps you could have checked this yourself instead of trying to portray right to roam as only covering roaming/crossing land.

https://www.outdooraccess-scotland.scot/practical-guide-all/camping

Access rights extend to wild camping. This type of camping is lightweight, done in small numbers and only for two or three nights in any one place. You can camp in this way wherever access rights apply, but help to avoid causing problems for local people and land managers by not camping in enclosed fields of crops or farm animals and by keeping well away from buildings, roads or historic structures.
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Nitefly said:
After BoJo / Cummings did their whole ‘prorogue parliament’ thing it wouldn’t surprise me if even something as unimportant and otherwise believable as a camping trip turned out to be publicity stunt.

That was the most dishonourable thing I can ever recall happening in politics and it has really stained my opinion of BoJo.
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What! you choose to ignore John Bercow's disgusting behaviour by abusing his position as speaker and trying to block everything to do with brexit going ahead , even delaying his departure so he can still keep doing it? (and now he actually admits it!)
 
Usher said:
What! you choose to ignore John Bercow's disgusting behaviour by abusing his position as speaker and trying to block everything to do with brexit going ahead , even delaying his departure so he can still keep doing it? (and now he actually admits it!)
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I really don’t think there’s any debate as to who the villains were in that episode. It wasn’t even half and half.

I also don’t understand how “but someone else!” is any justification for the worst political move ever.

Completely removed from Brexit, that whole thing was the worst.
 
The thing is people are getting so blinkered by their political views re: Boris that they're coming up with stuff like this - apparently being in Greece is more likely and others are "gullible":

Uther said:
Doesn't a picture usually get released when a pm is on holiday, especially if they are pushing 'staycations'?
Saying that, he's allegedly in Scotland, and if he appears in public there that can only increase the yes vote
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Uther said:
Does anyone actually believe that Boris, a man who has just survived a near death experience and a stay in ICU, is camping in a damp little tent in Scotland in the rain with his wife and new born child?
I'm more inclined to believe he's in Greece as said above. Anyway, not sure it matters, the country seems to get along just the same without him. I'm sure he'll be back when there's some good news for his adoring, if gullible fans.
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Here he is in the flesh, the man who "just survived a near death experience and a stay in ICU" and it doesn't look like he's in Greece...

"allegedly in Scotland"? Looks like it to me:

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As with the OP - asserting that others are gullible when it's perhaps more the case for them.... especially as we now have photos and an angry farmer... unless he was in on it too? And the tent just pitched for fun and the press photos staged? You'd have to get into full on conspiracy theory type thinking at the point.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12467810/boris-johnson-cuts-short-camping-trip-location-leaked/

I mean here is the tent, very close to the cottage and its facilities.

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But according to the OP sleeping overnight in that large ball tent just the other side of a fence from the cottage with a newborn isn't plausible... no reason given other than "experience"?

The other scenario of the parents having a night off in the tent while someone else watches the baby apparently isn't plausible either... the reasoning given by the OP being something about it being unnecessarily far from the baby... even if just overnight? And he's aware of the concept of nanny's/childcare and that some people make use of it...

Never mind that he's seemed to imply initially that Boris wasn't there at all and is now rather evasive after more details of this trip emerge including photos...

It is a bit cliched to say it but this is kind of like the so called "Trump derangement syndrome", I'm not exactly a big fan of Boris and I'm not sure this is particularly positive coverage but some are so bent out of shape by their views on Brexit that they're deluding themselves and ironically are trying to imply that others are credulous/gullible etc..
 
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Nitefly said:
I really don’t think there’s any debate as to who the villains were in that episode. It wasn’t even half and half.

I also don’t understand how “but someone else!” is any justification for the worst political move ever.

Completely removed from Brexit, that whole thing was the worst.
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Look at it this way, The public voted to leave the EU, which was subsequently proven at the GE by a massive vote for a party who promised to carry out Brexit.

Parliament and it's MP's are duty bound to carry out the will of the people and not pursue personal agenda's, so therefore it should pass unopposed, yes?

So what do you think could possibly be the reason to force the government to prorogue parliament?
 
Usher said:
Look at it this way, The public voted to leave the EU, which was subsequently proven at the GE by a massive vote for a party who promised to carry out Brexit.

Parliament and it's MP's are duty bound to carry out the will of the people and not pursue personal agenda's, so therefore it should pass unopposed, yes?

So what do you think could possibly be the reason to force the government to prorogue parliament?
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What you have described is literally not how parliament (or referendums like this) work.

The proroguing of parliament was even deemed unconstitutional, unlawful and therefore ‘quashed’.

Parliament and due progress should be never prorogued like that, ever. Period. That exercise in time wasting remains a really bleak stain on politics for me. Something that seems more akin to China or Russia than the UK.

Note also that I’m distinguishing the proroguement of parliament from Brexit itself.

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Just another non-story to distract from the **** show. 'Look at me in my combat trousers' Surprised he's not bareback, stripped to the waist, on a horse à la Putin.

If the Daily Mail are running it then you know it's a distraction.
 
Nitefly said:
What you have described is literally not how parliament (or referendums like this) work. It was even deemed unconstitutional, unlawful and therefore ‘quashed’.
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The referendum was deemed unconstitutional and unlawful was it ?
 
Usher said:
The referendum was deemed unconstitutional and unlawful was it ?
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I think he’s referring to the proroguing of Parliament.

However, now that you mention it, according to the High Court, had the referendum been legally binding it would have been void due to the overspend by the Leave campaign.
 
Usher said:
except you wrote "literally not how parliament (or referendums like this) work" :p
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Hmm, I still think it made sense but to add additional clarity, I’ve made minor amends to make it clear that the first two sentences are not linked and have separated the second sentence into its own paragraph, so that it hopefully Now makes more sense!

To add even more clarity, your point (as I highlighted) that the result of the referendum should ‘not be opposed’ really isn’t how parliament works at all and it doesn’t even make sense if you break it down (as there are so many ways the country could leave the EU).

For Parliament to act, it must go through it’s established processes. Specifically, the government must be open to scrutiny by Parliament. The Government acted in a manner that tried to avoid the scrutiny of Parliament (i.e. by proroguing).

What should have happened, if BoJo had any honour, would have been to call a general election in the summer, get the seats he needed and then vote it through. Not the absolute circus we have with proroguing parliament.

Hopefully that clears it up :)
 
Yes yes, turn it into a Brexit thread so the mods can shut down this embarrassing nonsense and the thread disappear or be locked and fall quietly down the list...

Bloody newspapers taking pictures and ruining the conspiracy.... can’t have the remainers being the credulous ones here.
 
Well this thread has certainly been enlightening. Turns out some people are a bit more loopy than I gave them credit for - I'd always given them the benefit of the doubt. :D

Getting so wound up over absolute non-events like this will give you a heart attack - get off the internet for a bit, calm down and do more important things instead. :)
 
joey1211 said:
Just another non-story to distract from the **** show. 'Look at me in my combat trousers' Surprised he's not bareback, stripped to the waist, on a horse à la Putin.
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and now we have another Conspiracy Theory, the clown has gone to Greece or Scotland but made sure his 'privacy' has been invaded by the Papp's.

It gets better.
 
Narj said:
Well this thread has certainly been enlightening. Turns out some people are a bit more loopy than I gave them credit for - I'd always given them the benefit of the doubt. :D

Getting so wound up over absolute non-events like this will give you a heart attack - get off the internet for a bit, calm down and do more important things instead. :)
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It is funny though how easily people are triggered by a silly GD thread. :p
 
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