Poll: POLL: HASWELL-E, DDR4 & X99, WHO's IS UPGRADING TO IT?

[Danthus]

I have a 2500k so if I upgrade it will probably X99.

 

[Gibbo]

For gaming Haswell-E offers an improved gaming experience with multi-GPU setups, not necessarily peak numbers, but smoother and less stutter due to increased PCI lanes over Z97 based chips.

If your running three or more GPU's then X79 or X99 platform gives a better experience and their is even an improvement with just two GPU's.

 

[mrham4321]

Looks extremely powerful, and was very impressed with the increased FPS in the likes of Tomb Raider etc.

But just don't have the money for it :'(

 

[Boomstick777]

how much better is it then my 4930k at 4.5ghz? i only see my chip in one or two slides most?

I think you're chip overclocked will be comparable. I mean for people already on high end Z79 with 4930K/4960X there is little reason to move to a 5820K as performance could be similar, the upgrade for you guys would be the 5960X, 2 extra cores better IPC etc, might be worth it.

For those building now though 5820K giving 4960X like performance for little money makes sense. Buying into a new platform that will give at least two years at the very high end. You can pick up a X99 mobo for £150 that arguably is better than the £150 Z97 mobo's the chip itself £285. It's only the memory that stings a bit but then at least you're buying into a future standard so it that sense it might retain it's value better than someone going out and buying DDR3 today.

The performance VS price has surprised a lot of people, in that respect I think 5820K + X99 has made the mainstream stuff somewhat redundant for new system builders in that same (Z97 + 4790K) price range..

 

[smilertoo]

I think the memory is where you're likely to lose most value, as soon as ddr4 becomes a noticeable market share, prices will drop sharply.

 

[Mal X]

Mate, x99 and haswell-E are enthusiast level. They are the TOP tier of computing intel has to offer. Period. There is no entry level on the whole platform, it's the best but you have to pay for it.

Google is your friend

no way, some of those early mobos will be ``entry level``

 

[Mal X]

Sounds like a lot of people trying to tell themselves why they don't have to buy because newer design and more expensive does not equal better .

It dooeesssss!!!

it doesn't if you're a gamer only...... please read the reviews above, it's the same or only 4 fps faster.

have you read what the Broadwell will be like ???.... read the link i posted up, you will get a far more powerful CPU and maybe at Xmas.

so lets say i upgraded to X99 right now, what CPU will i buy ??? well i deffo aint going to buy any of these three if a far more powerful 10 core Broadwell is due out soon! ....

the time is not right for X99 , it's after Xmas

 

[Dave2150]

it doesn't if you're a gamer only...... please read the reviews above, it's the same or only 4 fps faster.

gamers dont want to upgrade to X99 because they're not stupid, because have you read what the Broadwell will be like ???.... read the link i posted up, you will get a far more powerful CPU and maybe at Xmas.

you lot are spending a fortune right now and you'll deffo regret it, because Broadwell will be miles better and due out soon

you dont need to be a Rocket scientist to suss this out

All we've heard about broadwell is that it will be a 5% IPC increase. Also, it won't be out for Christmas for desktop socketed chips. Early 2015 for those, last we heard.

 

[Dimension]

Broadwell for desktop will be more like April. Intel are more worried about laptop and tablet sales.

 

[Mal X]

Broadwell for desktop will be more like April. Intel are more worried about laptop and tablet sales.

April flipping heck that's a long time

power? of course nobody knows, but it looks very powerful to me

 

[Orangey]

Broadwell is just a shrink of Haswell. It will be a non-event for enthusiasts and is expected to arrive later in 2015 as a K SKU. Skylake will be the real deal, new arch, around this time next year.

 

[Sylver123]

The Broadwell upgrade for existing LGA1150 sockets probably won't be that more powerful than the existing prosessors for this socket and won`t be the top high end parts of the Broadwell Series.

I am not sure if the LGA1150 socket will be getting 6 and 8 core Broadwell parts.

Intel's Extreme High End Broadwell Series which is only going to be coming to the x99 platform as far as I have read, is not due out until the end of 2015.

 

[Mal X]

Broadwell is just a shrink of Haswell. It will be a non-event for enthusiasts and is expected to arrive later in 2015 as a K SKU. Skylake will be the real deal, new arch, around this time next year.

well ok then, so we're still only looking at a years time, that's fine for me

 

[Gripen90]

For gaming Haswell-E offers an improved gaming experience with multi-GPU setups, not necessarily peak numbers, but smoother and less stutter due to increased PCI lanes over Z97 based chips.

If your running three or more GPU's then X79 or X99 platform gives a better experience and their is even an improvement with just two GPU's.

If you take the 5820K out of the equation. It only offers 16x/x8 - for a 2 way SLI/CrossFire multi GPU platform I think that's a penalty to take into consideration.

To me if going for a X99 platform that really is an enthusiast platform the only CPU to go for minimum is a 5930K...
enthusiast platform and then only being able to run 16x/x8 with a CPU does not compute in my world

And the 5960X due to it's low stock clocks is also a biiiit disappointing gaming (and benchmarking) wise
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...67240-intel-haswell-e-i7-5960x-review-12.html

 

[nashathedog]

Yeah I still don't get it. Even in gaming the stock clocked 5820K @ 3.6Ghz keeps up with the 4790K @ 4.4Ghz. I'm really not seeing much not to like with the 5820K, A £285 chip that bests the 4960X (£750), I really don't see how anyone can be disappointed, but then there are always people that are just very hard to please

What isn't there to get? If your already on a 4790k and all you do is game it's not a worthwhile upgrade. That's what the gent said.
Here's a variety of game title results on a single and a dual card set up.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/6

The following page has the same games tested with the cpu's both overclocked,

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/7

 

[Boomstick777]

What isn't there to get? If your already on a 4790k and all you do is game it's not a worthwhile upgrade. That's what the gent said.
Here's a variety of game title results on a single and a dual card set up.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/6

The following page has the same games tested with the cpu's both overclocked,

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/7

Lucky for me than I do more than just gaming than

When I said, yeah I don't get it. What I mean is this..

Intel release a £285 CPU that beats their previous high end £750 CPU. I just don't get how negative and pessimistic a person has to be to try and find a fault in this?

I mean to add some perspective. Imagine if AMD had released a £285 GPU that beat the GTX Titan Black and offered newer features. Or for that matter if AMD had launched a £285 CPU that could beat the 4960X just like the 5820K. An AMD 4960X beating CPU with DDR4..

Oh the people would rejoice, fanboys would be dancing around, bro fisting each other on the forums etc.. but here it's just Intel doing it so out come the nay sayers.

Yeah I just don't get it. Anyways nevermind, I am going to enjoy my 5820K X99 setup for sure

 

[Boomstick777]

Intel release 5820K (£285)... Beats 4960X (£750)..

People still complain !

 

[Gripen90]

Intel release 5820K (£285)... Beats 4960X (£750)..
People still complain !

Because it is still an expensive enthusiasts CPU that offers the same PCI lanes as a core i7 920 from 2008. To many including me that is a step backwards even so if it has 6 cores.

 

[JediFragger]

I think you're chip overclocked will be comparable. I mean for people already on high end Z79 with 4930K/4960X there is little reason to move to a 5820K as performance could be similar, the upgrade for you guys would be the 5960X, 2 extra cores better IPC etc, might be worth it.

For those building now though 5820K giving 4960X like performance for little money makes sense. Buying into a new platform that will give at least two years at the very high end. You can pick up a X99 mobo for £150 that arguably is better than the £150 Z97 mobo's the chip itself £285. It's only the memory that stings a bit but then at least you're buying into a future standard so it that sense it might retain it's value better than someone going out and buying DDR3 today.

The performance VS price has surprised a lot of people, in that respect I think 5820K + X99 has made the mainstream stuff somewhat redundant for new system builders in that same (Z97 + 4790K) price range..

I agree tbh, if I was building a system today I'd def go for a 5820K-based one. But is it worth me switching? No, esp because I have a nicely clocked 4770K

But the X99's are better value than I thought they'd be!! If I get a silly offer for mine I'll be making the switch

 

[Boomstick777]

Because it is still an expensive enthusiasts CPU that offers the same PCI lanes as a core i7 920 from 2008. To many including me that is a step backwards even so if it has 6 cores.

Come on man it's only £10 more than the 4790K cost at launch and that has even less PCI Lanes , tbh it seems like you're really having to stretch to find a reason to dislike the 5820K

For people buying now, and looking in that Z97 + 4790K price range, buying into X99 (Similar priced mobo) and 5820K (Similar priced CPU) makes sense, 50% more cores, more cache, DDR4 support etc. It's all good, I mean you can say DDR4 is more expensive sure, but I would prefer to buy into a new standard now than throw money into DDR3 which right now is also quite pricey.

Each to their own and all that, I just think 5820K is seriously good value for what you're getting.

I agree tbh, if I was building a system today I'd def go for a 5820K-based one. But is it worth me switching? No, esp because I have a nicely clocked 4770K

But the X99's are better value than I thought they'd be!! If I get a silly offer for mine I'll be making the switch

+1

Totally agree if you're happy with what you've got no reason to switch over, but if you're building now. 5820K + X99 makes a whole lot of sense.

I like to have the latest stuff, so would have bought anyway. The epic price of the 5820K + UD4 mobo is just a bonus for me

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