Yes it does, just because a firm of solicitors says it doesn't set a precedent doesn't mean they're right. If anyone took a company to a tribunal or a court that case would be looked at by the judges, as it has given a precedent. You can yawn all you want, your simply wrong.
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Yes it does, just because a firm of solicitors says it doesn't set a precedent doesn't mean they're right. If anyone took a company to a tribunal or a court that case would be looked at by the judges, as it has given a precedent. You can yawn all you want, your simply wrong.
Spoken like a true tyrant, all power belongs to the state and is given to the people, never the other way around.
Your position depends on the state granting rights to people, not restriciting their rights, your default position can only be that humans have no rights.
Feel free to dispute that it wouldn't be used, as it has set a precedent. Pray tell when was the last time your where in a tribunal or a court case involving work matters?
Lol classic Dolph.
Your inability to argue with positions actually put forth is telling. I tire with your strawmen.
Trade, for example, is not dependent on the state. The state has inserted itself into the process, but it is not intrinsic to it, see also employment law, infrastructure and so on.
The fact that the state has done this doesn't give it a right to make a claim on the property being moved around, as it has done that in a coercive manner too.
In all seriousness do people who vote Labour have faith in Corbyn to get a good deal out of the EU? Remember when we sent Cameron there to negotiate a good deal and he got absolutely nothing, imagine Corbyn going, he's the weakest person to be in a leadership role since my substitute GCSE English teacher back in year 10
The state provides the contracts, the legal system, the protection of law enforcement, the currency, the roads, the protection of profits once required, the enforcement of the terms of the contract. It provides the infrastructure that allows the making of the items in the first place, their shipment, the markets in which to sell them, and on, and on, and on... Now, you're partially correct in that trade is possible in pre-state societies but it is a weak and feeble thing compared to that is possible in state societies.
I'd trust him more than Cameron - who was awful in Europe - or May's team of Davis, Fox, and Johnson of whom it seems that only Davis is beginning to realise the scale of the problem. But Labour's position on Europe doesn't see any more well thought out that the Tory's.
I don't expect anybodies position on the EU to end up looking well thought out as they all know fundamentally it'll result in a kick in the balls for everyone in the short term and depending on who talk to, long term as well. It's a difficult sell when you have to say things that you'll actually be expected to back up and follow through on if people vote for you, unlike the referendum campaigning where only one party were actually at risk of being held to anything they said.
I can only think that the other parties didn't agree to a grand coalition to kick the Tories into touch because they don't actually want to win, just sit back and watch the Cons make a complete balls up of brexit, then try and pick up the pieces in 5 years time.
Of course, the Cons will run amok for the next five years, but they seem to think that's a price worth paying for the poor sods who have to bear the brunt.
Of course, the Cons will run amok for the next five years, but they seem to think that's a price worth paying for the poor sods who have to bear the brunt.
Good god People actually think the prime minister will play any role in brexit negotiations?
They do what they are advised to do by those that have a freaking clue....
It makes no difference to who does it except how the media will batter who ever is the figurehead in charge.
There's going to be no good deal on display for the UK or it will suggest weakness of the EU and others will think they can jump ship and still get all the perks of membership.
It's a sham... The media and the markets will decide who is a safe and secure lamb to lead you to the slaughter...... Conservative will win. It's not even a contest. Let them see through with the idiocy they started.
They do what they are advised to do by those that have a freaking clue....
It makes no difference to who does it except how the media will batter who ever is the figurehead in charge.
There's going to be no good deal on display for the UK or it will suggest weakness of the EU and others will think they can jump ship and still get all the perks of membership.
It's a sham... The media and the markets will decide who is a safe and secure lamb to lead you to the slaughter...... Conservative will win. It's not even a contest. Let them see through with the idiocy they started.
A "progressive alliance" is nonsense, and always will be. It assumes that non-Tory voters (except probably UKIP) are united in believing that the Tories are worse than all the alternatives, when this is simply untrue, and it's based on faulty maths in the first place. There are simply not many seats where unifying the left-of-Tory vote would actually win seats. Moreover, there are plenty of seats where the potential challengers are all left-of-Tory; how do you expect the parties to act in these seats? Worse, it reduces the complex variety of opinion to "No Tories!". It can benefit minor parties, perhaps, but it's a terrible idea for any party that wants to form a government in their own right (i.e. Labour) and without Labour it's pretty meaningless.
Typical I'm talking out my arse response, I wouldn't know what the inside of a court or tribunal looks like except what I have seen on the tv. You have no idea what a binding precedent means. You still haven't said when the last time you were involved in a either a tribunal or court case involving work matters.
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Seems many suffer from short term memory loss when it comes to Tory track record. How anyone could be silly enough to vote for them is beyond me 
kinda frightening so many are prepared to sell out for the sake of false ideology. I can't see how the Tory manifesto is relevant to the vast majority of people here. I would put money on most being in a position of financial hardship - why would you choose to make things even tougher on yourselves?
Then the Lib dems talking of short term memory loss... has everyone forgotten what happened last time?
kinda frightening so many are prepared to sell out for the sake of false ideology. I can't see how the Tory manifesto is relevant to the vast majority of people here. I would put money on most being in a position of financial hardship - why would you choose to make things even tougher on yourselves?Then the Lib dems talking of short term memory loss... has everyone forgotten what happened last time?
Why don't you answer the question? Pray tell the last time you were in a court or a tribunal?
Indeed, I would put Labour under Corbyn as worse than the Conservatives, but then identity politics was never my thing so I am not ideologically wed to any party.
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That is excellent
Whether he has or hasn't has no bearing on whether he's wrong or right, so surely it would be easier to simply prove him wrong and make him look stupid? Assuming of course you can prove him wrong.
This entirely reduces down to you admitting that it is your personal dislike of the current tax laws and not some inherent difference about tax to murder or selling babies.
Yes you have your personal preferences, just as many have a personal preference of not continually reducing the contributions required of those handling the largest sums of money.
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