Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

[Deleted member 651465]

It gets more money but wastes more due to mismanagement. As a public service, the government should enforce strict guidelines to all nhs hospitals and not let them do what they want, how they want, when they want, with whatever they like. Nobody seems to be interested in addressing that problem though.

That couldn't be further from the truth.

As someone who worked there for 4 years (ending last year) we had to cut back by huge amounts and would get regular emails showing progress against targets both as a division and at a trust level. It got so bad that I had to go without a PC monitor for 6 weeks because all IT purchases had to go through the chief exec. and there were almost no hot desks outside of the grad medical library.

No doubt there are plenty of useless managers (trust me when I say I could reel off a list) but the majority of the ground level staff are as desperate to meet the targets as the public want them to be.

 

[Nasher]

The public sector is also changing the way their budgets work. No more of the silly spend the left over cash by the end of the year or loose it, which is where a lot was being wasted on crap.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

It's rather moot to be honest. The only reason it's been called now is because their opposition is incredibly weak, they're taking advantage where they see an easy victory, which it will be.

This a 100%. Its an easy win in the current political climate. T.May gets to be an elected PM and another 4 years.

Our political system is a joke sadly. Not a party out their willing or capable of doing anything other than playing politics.

Having recently watched some re-runs of Yes Minister/Yes, Prime Minister it is clear that nothing has changed and the same jokes apply to the same type of career politicians.

 

[Caged]

Yea, because we were so much better off under Blair and Brown (who almost bankrupted the country) :/

Did you subscribe to the 'national credit card' rhetoric as well?

 

[Quartz]

Bring in proportional representation...

No thank you. PR removes the link between the MP and the constituency. PR is the way to go if you want party puppets. I believe Approval Voting is far superior to PR and FPTP. It's simple, maintains the link between MP and constituency and supports multiple members per constituency.

 

[CaptainComedy]

That couldn't be further from the truth.

As someone who worked there for 4 years (ending last year) we had to cut back by huge amounts and would get regular emails showing progress against targets both as a division and at a trust level. It got so bad that I had to go without a PC monitor for 6 weeks because all IT purchases had to go through the chief exec. and there were almost no hot desks outside of the grad medical library.

No doubt there are plenty of useless managers (trust me when I say I could reel off a list) but the majority of the ground level staff are as desperate to meet the targets as the public want them to be.

Not sure why you think I'm talking about the ground level staff - My issue is with missmanagement at the senior level.

 

[do_ron_ron]

Yea, because we were so much better off under Blair and Brown (who almost bankrupted the country) :/

That was the Crash that started in America with the sub-prime lending. Have you not noticed the whole world is suffering because of it?

 

[Caged]

I don't really believe there is a large gap in efficiency between public sector bodies and private sector organisations when taken as a whole. It's just that for obvious reasons people see a huge problem with public sector inefficiency, and assume that it can be solved on a per-organisation basis rather than an issue affecting the whole country.

 

[Dr Who]

Yea, because we were so much better off under Blair and Brown (who almost bankrupted the country) :/

What a pile of **** it was the BANKS that almost bankrupted the country, Blair and Brown were Neoliberals, just like the Tories, the Tories said Banking deregulation didn't go far enough and TM voted against further regulations to the Banks in 2012.

Vote Tory if you want to see just how bad things can get, if you want an authoritarian govt like Turkey just voted for

 

[ubersonic]

Yea, because we were so much better off under Blair and Brown (who almost bankrupted the country) :/

Technically speaking they did bankrupt the country, it was plunged into deficit/debt with no way of paying it. It's just nobody takes a country to bankruptcy court.

 

[The_Abyss]

Technically speaking they did bankrupt the country, it was plunged into deficit/debt with no way of paying it. It's just nobody takes a country to bankruptcy court.

We're not bankrupt because we're still able to service our debt commitments. So technically speaking, you're incorrect.

 

[Barham2016]

Has to be conservatives, just cant trust labour.

 

[ubersonic]

We're not bankrupt because we're still able to service our debt commitments.

We're not though, loaning money to cover your debts because you cannot afford to service them is actually bankruptcy, it's just that nobody takes countries to court over it. And also they know that eventually we will get our deficit under control and return to profitability (hence why we are still being lent to at such a high credit rating).

 

[Freakbro]

Did you subscribe to the 'national credit card' rhetoric as well?

Remember when DC announced we should all be responsible and 'pay off our own credit card debts'.....the banking system had a coronary, quickly took him to one side gave him a bollocking and sent him out to retract that statement!

It would have brought our system to a grinding halt if we weren't in so much debt

 

[wildman]

We're not though, loaning money to cover your debts because you cannot afford to service them is actually bankruptcy, it's just that nobody takes countries to court over it. And also they know that eventually we will get our deficit under control and return to profitability (hence why we are still being lent to at such a high credit rating).

Meaning we are not bankrupt. If you as an individual went bankrupt you would not have a credit rating period that would allow you to borrow anything.

 

[Freakbro]

We're not though, loaning money to cover your debts because you cannot afford to service them is actually bankruptcy, it's just that nobody takes countries to court over it. And also they know that eventually we will get our deficit under control and return to profitability (hence why we are still being lent to at such a high credit rating).

Your not taking into account the factors of length of time and inflation when it comes to sovereign debt, it's nothing like personal debt.

 

[ubersonic]

Your not taking into account the factors of length of time and inflation when it comes to sovereign debt, it's nothing like personal debt.

I know, that's why I mentioned it lol.

 

[Tunney]

I normally vote Labour, but as the majority are Pro EU, and myself voting Brexit, I see the only option is to vote Tory, as I feel we will *hopefully* get the best outcome.

And that's Labour's problem in a nutshell: I see them as too lukewarm on the EU to vote for them and you see them as too pro-EU to vote for them.

 

[The_Abyss]

We're not though, loaning money to cover your debts because you cannot afford to service them is actually bankruptcy, it's just that nobody takes countries to court over it. And also they know that eventually we will get our deficit under control and return to profitability (hence why we are still being lent to at such a high credit rating).

I appreciate you're trying to make a certain point, but using a word incorrectly doesn't help you. We're not bankrupt - technically speaking or otherwise.

 

[Caged]

Has to be conservatives, just cant trust labour.

You trust a PM who said less than a month ago that there would most definitely be no early general election?