Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

[Efour]

People still claiming Thatcher gutted the country.
People still claim labour wrecked the country spending Willy nilly.
8 years later the Tories are dismantling the NHS and eroding away human rights and still it's someone elses fault.
It's all bs, doesn't matter what you vote for.
None of them are going to have a real say in how the EU gets to abort the UK. They will all spout on how they will fight for it but the reality is they will get,you will get, what scraps fall off the negotiation table.

 

[hurfdurf]

Labour have destroyed this country

New Labour under Tony Blair let the banks off during a world wide recession, Corbyn isn't part of that tribe, Blair is more like May than Corbyn.

 

[Dolph]

New Labour under Tony Blair let the banks off during a world wide recession, Corbyn isn't part of that tribe, Blair is more like May than Corbyn.

Blair left office in June 2007, the first signs of the financial crisis kicking in started in August. The handling of the crisis was solely and completely the responsibility of the Brown administration, not the Blair one.

 

[Gabbatek]

http://www.conservatives2017.com/

their new manifesto LOL

 

[Dolph]

http://www.conservatives2017.com/

their new manifesto LOL

And yet even the parody version is more convincing than corbyn as pm...

 

[Efour]

People still blaming "war criminal" Blair for nonsense that he had no hand in.

God the UK is screwed.

 

[Gabbatek]

And yet even the parody version is more convincing than corbyn as pm...

prime ministers don't really do much when their in power except executive decisions and meetings with other countries.

The cabinet are the ones who do most of it, so it doesn't really matter if corbyn is leading or not its who he chooses into his cabinet.

Hes actually quite good at pmq's but none of you watch it

 

[Gabbatek]

 

[Dolph]

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This is such a load on nonsense it's hard to know where to start, not least because the lack of critical thinking and reasoning has already been established...

 

[Gabbatek]

It's all true though, wear red don't put out false information. If you research each claim they all check out.

Infact, i challenge you to disprove any of them.

 

[Dolph]

prime ministers don't really do much when their in power except executive decisions and meetings with other countries.

The cabinet are the ones who do most of it, so it doesn't really matter if corbyn is leading or not its who he chooses into his cabinet.

Hes actually quite good at pmq's but none of you watch it

I do, he's awful. Furthermore, his cabinet consists of people such as Diane 'hypocrite' Abbott, John 'supported the London riots and the ira' Mcdonnell and Emily 'white van man' Thornbury...

The only real surprise is that labour is polling as high as it is.

Edit to add sources.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34285308 John mcdonnell Ira.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11979016/John-McDonnell-London-rioters-were-victims.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/diane-abbott-i-sent-my-son-to-private-230293

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...and-Rochester-who-lost-the-working-class.html

 

[Dolph]

It's all true though, wear red don't put out false information. If you research each claim they all check out.

Infact, i challenge you to disprove any of them.

No, you prove them, with independent sources for each claim. You are making the claims, not me.

The simple fact that the picture refers to a benefit cut as a tax shows the agenda from the start.

 

[Sankari]

http://www.conservatives2017.com/

their new manifesto LOL

It's a neat little anti-Tory hatchet job, but...

Conservatives2017.com brings together facts, figures and opinion from a variety of sources, including the Daily Mail, Telegraph, BBC News and The Sun.

Four sources mentioned, only one of which is consistently credible.

 

[wordy]

I think they're not failing from their own point of view. They have unprecedented power and continue to do what they want to do - cut services, reduce rights, increase surveillance and control, increase their own power and increase profits for large businesses. There's no indication that they ever meant the promises they made and haven't delivered on. It's more plausible that they were simply empty words to gain votes.

Very good point. When you put it like that they have been incredibly productive.

 

[McPhee]

None of them are going to have a real say in how the EU gets to abort the UK. They will all spout on how they will fight for it but the reality is they will get,you will get, what scraps fall off the negotiation table.

I think you're underestimating our position. We're a net contributor to the EU budget. We run a trade imbalance to the tune of £80bn more imports from the EU than exports to the EU. A vast chunk of investment in the EU travels through London. We have one of the most powerful militaries in Europe, we have Trident, and we have one of the best intelligence services in the world. I expect the EU will try to play hardball, but we're not in a particularly weak position. The EU still needs our co-operation, economically, and on matters of security.

The EU is concerned with the EU's prosperity and security. At the moment, that aim is best served by making us look the fool. But when it comes down to it, if we send a clear message that we won't take scraps, that it's a fair deal or no deal, they'll capitulate. Leaving with no deal would be bad for us, but it would be a disaster for the EU.

 

[Hagar]

The worst nightmare is the likes of McClusky wandering into Downing street for beer and sandwiches and to inform policy decisions. Back to the 1960's.

 

[Destination]

It's all true though, wear red don't put out false information. If you research each claim they all check out.

Infact, i challenge you to disprove any of them.

What national assets are they planning to firesale?
'hint' the NHS isn't an asset currently, no matter what parts they might cherry pick to sell.

 

[Freakbro]

What national assets are they planning to firesale?
'hint' the NHS isn't an asset currently, no matter what parts they might cherry pick to sell.

Well, I suppose that claim might not be true....as they're all sold off already and we have none left

 

[mmj_uk]

It shows how biased the media are the way they're reporting on Trump prioritising a trade deal with the EU as a massive blow to Brexit, no mention of the fact that it's because he's binned TTIP or that making a deal with us is currently pointless because we're chained to the EU for another 2 years.

 

[Rroff]

I think you're underestimating our position. We're a net contributor to the EU budget. We run a trade imbalance to the tune of £80bn more imports from the EU than exports to the EU. A vast chunk of investment in the EU travels through London. We have one of the most powerful militaries in Europe, we have Trident, and we have one of the best intelligence services in the world. I expect the EU will try to play hardball, but we're not in a particularly weak position. The EU still needs our co-operation, economically, and on matters of security.

The EU is concerned with the EU's prosperity and security. At the moment, that aim is best served by making us look the fool. But when it comes down to it, if we send a clear message that we won't take scraps, that it's a fair deal or no deal, they'll capitulate. Leaving with no deal would be bad for us, but it would be a disaster for the EU.

Yeah - Germany might be doing a lot of barking at the moment but they (and because of it) are more worried than it appears on the surface - there is a very real risk to them financially if and when we are gone.