Poll: Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Mk II

Who will you vote for?

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McBain said:
Who knows what the state of the world will be like in 20/30/40/50 years?

I'd rather have it and not need it, than not have it and suddenly Iran, or N.Korea are suddenly on the sniff.
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OH please, stop it with the right wing (Sorry, i guess its just general at this point) claptrap about Iran and NK, its most likely that a terrorist will be the first to set one off, then perhaps Pakistan/India/Israel.

Honestly...
 
Jimmeh said:
My optimism in politics was removed by the last Labour government who left a 'jokey' note on the desk of the incoming Tory Chancellor saying there was 'no money left'.
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I am pretty sure the current Labour Party would quite happily strangle Liam Byrne!
 
McBain said:
Who knows what the state of the world will be like in 20/30/40/50 years?

I'd rather have it and not need it, than not have it and suddenly Iran, or N.Korea are suddenly on the sniff.
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Sure, but it's not cost neutral. The question isn't do you want it just in case. It's do you want us all to pay £170bn just in case.

Also, Iran isn't going to be trying to invade the UK any time at all. And North Korea could be dealt with by conventional weapons if we have to.
 
StriderX said:
OH please, stop it with the right wing (Sorry, i guess its just general at this point) claptrap about Iran and NK, its most likely that a terrorist will be the first to set one off, then perhaps Pakistan/India/Israel.

Honestly...
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It was an example based on how volatile those countries are. You're talking about the state of the world as it is now, in which case I would agree terrorists would be the likely main threat in this respect.

However if you have a crystal ball and know what will be going on in 2050, do me a favour and get the lottery numbers for the weekend will you please?

h4rm0ny said:
Sure, but it's not cost neutral. The question isn't do you want it just in case. It's do you want us all to pay £170bn just in case.

Also, Iran isn't going to be trying to invade the UK any time at all. And North Korea could be dealt with by conventional weapons if we have to.
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Money well spent if you ask me.
 
Well Corbyn spoke well I'll give him that. Reality of running a government thought might cut his list of promises down if he ever got in. Promise little and over achieve
 
dowie said:
How come you're a Corbyn fan this time - he seems totally at odds with that coalition government?
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Well, this is the thing, I have voted for several different parties over the years, I am not a crazy Corbyn supporter, I voted Con in 2015, but I absolutely loathe May. If I thought the Lib Dems could get anywhere I would vote for them.
Our fptp system sucks.
 
Jimmeh said:
My optimism in politics was removed by the last Labour government who left a 'jokey' note on the desk of the incoming Tory Chancellor saying there was 'no money left'.
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/28215d56-735e-11df-ae73-00144feabdc0.html?ft_site=falcon&desktop=true

FT said:
Sir Peter Baldwin, who has died at the age of 87, was the mandarin who headed the Department of Transport after it was hived off from the rest of Whitehall in 1976. Sir Peter's career ranged from code-breaking during the second world war to having London's black cabs redesigned so they could take wheelchairs. At one point during a visit to China he was even presented with a 1934 British-built steam locomotive, now in the National Railway museum at York. Yet there is at least one startling parallel between his day and the present.

He served at the Treasury and when the Tory government fell in 1964 he was made private secretary to James Callaghan, the incoming Labour chancellor. When Callaghan arrived he found a note from Reggie Maudling, his Tory predecessor. It read: "Good luck old ****. Sorry to leave it in such a mess." Much the same sentiment but written in a more beguiling way than the letter left by Labour's Liam Byrne for his coalition successor last month saying there was no money.
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BORING
 
Things likely to impact you:

NHS
Education
Living wages & standards
A decent Brexit deal

Things not likely to impact you:

Retaliation if someone nukes the U.K. (because the skin will have already melted off your face.)
 
Uther said:
Well, this is the thing, I have voted for several different parties over the years, I am not a crazy Corbyn supporter, I voted Con in 2015, but I absolutely loathe May. If I thought the Lib Dems could get anywhere I would vote for them.
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Given how May is doing in the polls at the moment surely the Lib Dems could be worth a shot again no? Chance of another coalition and better odds for a soft Brexit....
 
I was pleasantly surprised by how well Corbyn did, he struggled a bit with the barrage of Trident questions, but I think I largely agree with his position regarding it's actual usage.

I think he did well, he seems to have come out of his shell a bit.
 
McBain said:
Money well spent if you ask me.
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Well there's the thing. We can't know if the £260bn was well spent or not until we actually find out we need to kill ourselves or not. And if we get past the next twenty years and we haven't, we'll need to spend the same money all over again just to continue having the ability to kill ourselves in the future. It's an unknown.
 
FuriousGeorge said:
Retaliation if someone nukes the U.K. (because the skin will have already melted off your face.)
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that is handled by submarine commanders anyway

the first strike aspect is a bit worrying in the event that there was a real need for it, the deterrence aspect is a bit weakened too with him in charge
 
One More Solo said:
I thought Corbyn was strong on terrorism and the economy (his answer on low paid migrant workers was very good), but he was a bit ill prepared on the obvious nuclear question. Should have just said it's not easy to be flippant and would totally depend on the circumstances at the time, plus pointing out the decision may ultimately rest with someone else.
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We vote for the party not the leader
 
h4rm0ny said:
Well there's the thing. We can't know if the £260bn was well spent or not until we actually find out we need to kill ourselves or not. And if we get past the next twenty years and we haven't, we'll need to spend the same money all over again just to continue having the ability to kill ourselves in the future. It's an unknown.
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It's money well spent whether we use it or not.
 
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