Poll: Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Mk II

Who will you vote for?


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Caporegime
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Just go for the Strong and Stable option then, which is....errr...none of the above.

I wasn't going to vote but considering Labour seem to be closing the gap i'd rather not risk it. Tory all the way.

Yes it was, when an unarmed man is summarily executed by a first world nation without trial or due process that is a textbook travesty of justice.

No, it wasn't. He got exactly what was coming to him.

'First world nation' though? Are you saying you'd have been happy if some peasant from Ethiopia had done the job?
 
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That's less than I'd thought.

It does rather make the point, however, that £80k is more than enough to live on, if only 5% are earning that much. However I'm finding it hard to believe. We know from other threads that 80% of OcUK members earn six-figure salaries... And the chap we're responding to said that "any decent IT job" can pay over £80k.

If true then the amount of available "decent IT jobs" must be very, very small. So something isn't right, here.

Actually the gap is wider. Based on 2015 figures

https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...1-to-99-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax

top 5% is only £71,700 and top 1% is now £162k.

Both me and my partner are in the top 7%.

I suspect the ocuk forum is very wealthy place and doesnt reflect a cross section of the public. with the disposable income to buy cpus and high end gfx cards including Titans or several in some peoples cases.
 
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Meanwhile Rudd came across terribly!! Dodging the questions... and soooooo badddd beyond awful on encryption - she has just no understanding of it. Marr was saying "you do realise that for example internet banking doesn't work without encryption" and she was saying more or less "no you're missing the point we need a backdoor to all encryption to stop terrorists." Wut!! It was utter fail.

I'm amazed the Tories get so much support on this tech savy forum, with their zero knowledge and attitude to the internet and encryption.
 
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I'm amazed the Tories get so much support on this tech savy forum, with their zero knowledge and attitude to the internet and encryption.
Very much this.

May wants her own "UK internet" where every communication is plain-text, and information the UK govt doesn't like is silently censored.

And she's basically said as much - she makes no effort to hide her intentions, here.

I guess people voting for her are counting on her realising that it's "not possible" or "too much effort", and dropping the proposals. However I wouldn't be so sure she won't keep trying.
 
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Oh dear; looks like Corbyn is channelling Abbott.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40090520

Corbyn can afford to live in this fantasy world along with Abbott because there is little chance of these ideas ever happening. The Sun had an apt headline 'May vs Mayhem' and that is what it looks like when you listen to Corbyn stumble through his ideas and defending his views on the Falklands, IRA, Hamas, use of drones and nuclear weapons.
 
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Conservative for me this time round - the likes of Amber Rudd don't exactly fill me with confidence, but if the alternative is the utterly useless and race-obsessed Dianne Abbott or any of those other socialist loons, then the Tories it is ...
 
Soldato
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No, it wasn't.
It was, technically speaking.

He got exactly what was coming to him.
Oh I don't disagree but I still don't agree with the method, if you ignore your principles when it suits you then what's the point of having them.

'First world nation' though? Are you saying you'd have been happy if some peasant from Ethiopia had done the job?
No I was pointing out that summarily executing a suspect without due process falls well short of the standards expected from a first would nation with a high standard of justice (like Corbyn pointed out).

When the Libyan rebels captured Gaddafi after the French wounded him it was regrettable that they killed him though understandable (raping his female bodyguards to death was inexcusable however), if it had been a coalition team that apprehended him however you would have expected him to survive to trial, the same went for Osama.
 
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It's crazy how much everything is turned updside-down in this election. I now have Owen Jones on my Twitter feed, praising George Osborne to the hilt because he implied something nasty against Theresa May, he seems to be expecting people to believe it's genuine criticism because it's Tory on Tory, rather than the word of a bitter, failed Chancellor who was unceremoniously sacked by Theresa May.
 
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I thought them both pretty lame last night, Corbyn I thought was evasive and not convincing but May was awful, out of the two May still is the better option imo, I couldn't vote for a party leader so despised by his own back benchers and with such poor judgement on his shadow cabinet appointments (Diane Abbott!)

I think Corbyn is heading to a victory promised on the undeliverable and we're going to rue the day we let that man steer us through the next five crucial years.

Why no questions toward Corbyn about the huge costs of renationalising?

How the conservatives are apparently hell bent (and succeeding) on losing this election astounds me and worrys me in equal measure.

I wish I could see in Corbyn what others seem to see, all I do see is a man of questionable judgement, years of voting against his own party and very poor choices of people he calls friends.
A prime minister in waiting he isn't but I really fear we're going to have him in no.10 if we don't wake up to what he really is about.

The conservatives need to up their game dramatically before May goes down as a bigger gambler and loser than Cameron ever was.
 
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