Polygamy

Raz said:
Why is this frowned upon?

Saying it is illegal and morally wrong isn't a valid argument since it could be argued that our views on right and wrong are also (but not limited to) based on what is legal or not. Homosexuality is illegal in some countries but many would blame the law, not the moral position, as being wrong.

Personally, while I'm supposed to accept polygyny as a Muslim (you know who the father is...but with DNA testing maybe this Islamic legal aspect could be reformed...), but using the argument that as long as it doesn't hurt others what people do is their matter then there doesn't seem to be a problem with polygamy.

So, should society be more receptive to polygamous relationships? Do people here think it's wrong?
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Fine with me, but please oh please do not make a damn TV show over it, and ram it down our throats. (US members can probably relate to that)
 
Raz said:
Why is this frowned upon?

Saying it is illegal and morally wrong isn't a valid argument since it could be argued that our views on right and wrong are also (but not limited to) based on what is legal or not. Homosexuality is illegal in some countries but many would blame the law, not the moral position, as being wrong.

Personally, while I'm supposed to accept polygyny as a Muslim (you know who the father is...but with DNA testing maybe this Islamic legal aspect could be reformed...), but using the argument that as long as it doesn't hurt others what people do is their matter then there doesn't seem to be a problem with polygamy.

So, should society be more receptive to polygamous relationships? Do people here think it's wrong?
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Lets assume that 50% of the population is male and 50% female. (there or there abouts)

Please explain how a man, taking more than 1 wife can work?

On the other hand, let's assume we are (as a race) recovering from a global apocalypse, I can see how polygyny could be advantageous.
 
SkodaMart said:
Lets assume that 50% of the population is male and 50% female. (there or there abouts)

Please explain how a man, taking more than 1 wife can work?

On the other hand, let's assume we are (as a race) recovering from a global apocalypse, I can see how polygyny could be advantageous.
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It may not work for you, but if the people involved are happy, then why should it be illegal?

Personally, I don't think I could get it to work and I've never imagined having more than one wife - not least because I've only ever wanted to be with one person, and I married her.
 
SkodaMart said:
Lets assume that 50% of the population is male and 50% female. (there or there abouts)

Please explain how a man, taking more than 1 wife can work?
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The same way that gay marriage can work. Do you also worry that lesbians might take potential women out of the equation?

No one has an inherent right to a partner... its down to individuals and the choices they want to make.
 
Dimple said:
I've only skip read this but why have most posters only commented on 1 man + several wives?
Polygamy also works the other way.
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Perhaps because they're being quite narrow minded about the subject... then again that is probably the most common combination in some countries and among some communities.
 
This is another one of those things that you look at from a non biased viewpoint and think *well they are not hurting anyone or affecting anyone*
I really think things like this should be allowed just because it is their personal choice.
It's not for me but i know one of my ex's is currently in a relationship with more than one partner and they are perfectly happy
 
dowie said:
The same way that gay marriage can work. Do you also worry that lesbians might take potential women out of the equation?

No one has an inherent right to a partner... its down to individuals and the choices they want to make.
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OK, lets assume, 5% of the population is gay.

5% of women choose a female partner and 5% of males choose a male partner.

= balance restored.

Not a valid argument.
 
Raz said:
It may not work for you, but if the people involved are happy, then why should it be illegal?

Personally, I don't think I could get it to work and I've never imagined having more than one wife - not least because I've only ever wanted to be with one person, and I married her.
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The way it works it the way many things work in Islamic culture.

It's a strongly class based society (cast).

The powerful Muslims would take hundreds of wives, the lower class are as good as slaves.

You think this is the way it should be?
 
Like I said, in my first post, if the human race was in danger of extinction due to a post apocalyptic event.

Polygyny could (would) make sense.

However the world is massively over populated, we can't feed the mouths that are currently here.

I personally view every human as equal, from a starving baby in Africa to her Royal Majesty herself.

Those born all have equal rights in my eyes.

I find 'class' extremely offensive.
 
SkodaMart said:
The way it works it the way many things work in Islamic culture.

It's a strongly class based society (cast).

The powerful Muslims would take hundreds of wives, the lower class are as good as slaves.

You think this is the way it should be?
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There's no caste system in Islam. Every Muslim man can, according to the Quran and provided certain conditions are met, have up to four wives.

I should add that this thread is about polygamy in general, and not polygyny in Islam.
 
Raz said:
There's no caste system in Islam. Every Muslim man can, according to the Quran and provided certain conditions are met, have up to four wives.

I should add that this thread is about polygamy in general, and not polygyny in Islam.
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And every man in a capitalist society can go on to become a millionaire...

But we all know it doesn't work like that.

I thought the Muslim community was very strongly caste orientated, marrying below your caste is very seriously frowned upon? - I stand to be corrected?

Anyhow, like I said, powerful 'men' would take hundreds of wives, the poor would be 'slaves' more than they are today.

Every man, Black, white, yellow or brown is born EQUAL.

It's bad enough that wealth is so unevenly distributed. I find in utterly repugnant that a rich and powerful man would have a Harem of wives and lowly slaves to serve him.
 
Religion is utter BS.

Problem is, most peoples moral compass is so wide of the mark, it was 'invented' by man to try and control the masses.

Taken in the right context, the Bible or Quran could (and should) make the world a better place.

But sadly this isn't the case.
 
SkodaMart said:
And every man in a capitalist society can go on to become a millionaire...

But we all know it doesn't work like that.

I thought the Muslim community was very strongly caste orientated, marrying below your caste is very seriously frowned upon? - I stand to be corrected?

Anyhow, like I said, powerful 'men' would take hundreds of wives, the poor would be 'slaves' more than they are today.

Every man, Black, white, yellow or brown is born EQUAL.

It's bad enough that wealth is so unevenly distributed. I find in utterly repugnant that a rich and powerful man would have a Harem of wives and lowly slaves to serve him.
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No, there is no caste system in Islam. However, that doesn't stop people from discriminating in one form or another.

Men are also limited to four wives. Again, that's the limit for how many wives you can have according to sharia, but people are known to break laws...

There is no discrimination in Islam based on skin colour.
 
Raz said:
No, there is no caste system in Islam. However, that doesn't stop people from discriminating in one form or another.

Men are also limited to four wives. Again, that's the limit for how many wives you can have according to sharia, but people are known to break laws...

There is no discrimination in Islam based on skin colour.
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A marriage is supposed to be a partnership between 2 people, in reality again it doesn't really work out like that.

It's in a mans interest to spread his seed as wide as possible, as 5 mins (or less) :p and we are out of there.

A woman on the other hand is stuck with the consequences for at least 16 years.

Our 'survivalist' instincts have no place in the modern world, there are too many of us.

Having more than 2 children (on average) is frankly irresponsible. (accidents permitted).
 
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