Polygamy

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Why is this frowned upon?

Saying it is illegal and morally wrong isn't a valid argument since it could be argued that our views on right and wrong are also (but not limited to) based on what is legal or not. Homosexuality is illegal in some countries but many would blame the law, not the moral position, as being wrong.

Personally, while I'm supposed to accept polygyny as a Muslim (you know who the father is...but with DNA testing maybe this Islamic legal aspect could be reformed...), but using the argument that as long as it doesn't hurt others what people do is their matter then there doesn't seem to be a problem with polygamy.

So, should society be more receptive to polygamous relationships? Do people here think it's wrong?
 
It may not be the ideal environment to raise children but that would be my only real objection. Basically, what consenting adults do, regardless of numbers or gender, is their business.
 
It shouldn't be illegal tbh... as far as 'marriage equality' is concerned the govt shouldn't have just made homosexual marriage legal but should have made other combinations legal too.

It doesn't have to be too legally complicated, it might well be simpler to have some form of pre-nup agreement in place as with more parties to the marriage there would presumably be a higher chance of one or more wanting to leave... or other scenarios such as one or more wanting to join the marriage. Aside from having to splash out on some additional legal fees to remove potential future complications it shouldn't be an issue.
 
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It makes your relationship less unique. When you get married you make vows to a person. Vows wouldn't make sense if you'd already made them to someone else. Outside of marriage though, if everyone knows what the deal is, it's their choice.
 
Sliver said:
It may not be the ideal environment to raise children but that would be my only real objection. Basically, what consenting adults do, regardless of numbers or gender, is their business.
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Well objectively that's exactly how it should be really. Personal views aside, if we use a certain argument to support X, it should also be used to support Y if conditions and factors are the same (i.e. consenting adults).
 
billysielu said:
It makes your relationship less unique. When you get married you make vows to a person. Vows wouldn't make sense if you'd already made them to someone else. Outside of marriage though, if everyone knows what the deal is, it's their choice.
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That's very much subjective when you consider many women are happy enough to be married to the same man. Current vows reflect monogamous relationships.
 
Raz said:
Well objectively that's exactly how it should be really. Personal views aside, if we use a certain argument to support X, it should also be used to support Y if conditions and factors are the same (i.e. consenting adults).
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Not sure what you're getting at. Can you be more clear ?
 
Its not fair on women though is it.

A marriage is supposed to be an equal relationship between 2 adults but if you have 1 husband and several wives then all the power goes to the man with the wives fighting each other for his attention and essentially becoming house servants.

Nothing stopping you from having several partners but it shouldn't be endorsed in marriage / law.
 
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billysielu said:
It makes your relationship less unique. When you get married you make vows to a person. Vows wouldn't make sense if you'd already made them to someone else. Outside of marriage though, if everyone knows what the deal is, it's their choice.
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doesn't have to... there are plenty of unhappy monogamous couples whose marriages are only just about held together..

you could also put forth a similar objection to someone who wants to work off shore or in the armed forces and get married... such a person would have much less time with their spouse

as for less unique - is that necessarily a bad thing... and the vows can quite easily make sense, that simply depends on the vows...
 
MonkeyMan said:
Its not fair on women though is it.

A marriage is supposed to be an equal relationships but if you have 1 husband and several wives then all the power goes to the man with the wives fighting each other for his attention and essentially becoming house servants.

Nothing stopping you from having several partners but it shouldn't be endorsed in marriage / law.
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I think the assumption in this topic would be that the women who enter in to polygamous relationships fully understand what they are doing.
 
MonkeyMan said:
Its not fair on women though is it.

A marriage is supposed to be an equal relationships but if you have 1 husband and several wives then all the power goes to the man with the wives fighting each other for his attention and essentially becoming house servants.

Nothing stopping you from having several partners but it shouldn't be endorsed in marriage / law.
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make other combinations legal too...

Its not as though you don't get dominant partners in monogamous relationships too... The power thing is already a problem there so is nothing new.... plenty of males out there completely pussy whipped by their wives and of course plenty of husbands out there who are controlling/dominant

Its certainly not a foregone conclusion that in a marriage of say one man and two women that the man would necessarily be dominant... perhaps in a traditional Mormon or Muslim marriage but what about a situation where the women are also bi-sexual, perhaps with feminist inclinations... could quite easily see a guy being the less dominant party.
 
Sliver said:
Not sure what you're getting at. Can you be more clear ?
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I used homosexuality earlier. If it's between consenting adults, and no one is being harmed, then what's the problem?

MonkeyMan said:
Its not fair on women though is it.

A marriage is supposed to be an equal relationships but if you have 1 husband and several wives then all the power goes to the man with the wives fighting each other for his attention and essentially becoming house servants.

Nothing stopping you from having several partners but it shouldn't be endorsed in marriage / law.
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That's why the thread is called polygamy not polgyny. One husband many wives, or one wife many husbands.

If they're happy with that lifestyle should the government have a say in the matter?
 
Maybe this is just me, but I couldn't help feeling unfaithful. Surely it also introduces a lot of complexities? What if you like one more than the others/enjoy spending time with one of them?

I'm obviously not speaking from experience but I'd be happy with one. I don't think it's morally wrong (as above with the idea that there's nothing wrong with it if it's between two consenting adults), just not for me.
 
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billysielu said:
wow.. ask for opinions.. get them.. argue with them..
bai thread.
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lol, not quite. I'm working on an essay at the moment about polygamy in Islam so having lots of thoughts going through my mind.

I know if I leave now it'll take me years to get back to this thread.

But I am interested when people disagree with something but agree with something else similar because sometimes it's a very subjective view and not objective.
 
RogerMesenseless said:
Maybe this is just me, but I couldn't help feeling unfaithful. Surely it also introduces a lot of complexities? What if you like one more than the others/enjoy spending time with one of them?
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Should you only have one child because if you have more than one you might love one more than the other?
 
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