Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

[Gibbo]

That's fair comment, I've personally not driven a 911 yet. However, I will ask about a GT3 when I am at Silverstone next month.

Nothing compares to a GT3 especially on a track for feel and driving dynamics, not only that the GT3 is also vastly quicker. Cayman GTS in right spec will match a 996 GT3 or 997 GTS at most tracks as a benchmark.

997 GT3 is quite a bit quicker, more power and lighter compared to 996 and 997.2 GT3 is silly quick and RS versions insane, especially that 4.0l

The Cayman is epic but the 911 on track has an incredible race car feel that the Cayman does not have but they are both immense on track.

 

[Gibbo]

Hi there

The 911 has a full paint restoration over past couple of days and proper detail by Auto-Brite in Stoke, very fair price and exceptional job.


Rich took some photos in the terrible weather for me:


Richard O'Neill

Shall get some more pics posted soon and get some done hopefully in sun but this is long over due as the paint was heavily marred being nearly ten years old and there were also some marks. These are now all but gone and the paint has a real deep glossy shine to it, very happy with results!

hoping that ain't a nail in my tyre!!! Had a look tonight can't see anything and no pressure loss so fingers crossed.

 

[Gibbo]

Some pictures the guys at Autobrite took of the car after they had finished the paint correction:

Really looking forward to seeing the car in some direct sunlight as its going to look amazing.

 

[Gibbo]

Did not know that 911 was 10 years old!

Its nearly there, give Porsche that they build them to last, the interior is still unmarked and looks brand new.

 

[Gibbo]

I saw it at Mark's Gibbo, it's looking well. They did my correction, Kev's a talented guy, well worth the money.

At Marks, what is that mate?

 

[Gibbo]

Paint looks great Gibbo, what kind of package did you have done, how many hours?

A full paint cleanse, so he washed the car with purple rain to remove any metal fall out from the paint, such as brake dust. The car was then clayed and re-washed. Then the paint correction and polishing was performed. It was then re polished, waxed. Then washed and waxed again! Two day job.

All the door shuts and wheel arches were all cleaned as well.

 

[Gibbo]

Lots of effort then, looks like it just rolled out the showroom though!

Cheers mate.
Yeah a lot of work at a very fair price hence why I had it done.

 

[Gibbo]

The car looks amazing, one of the nicest 911s I've seen. How much did it cost you if you don't mind me asking ? My car could really do with this being done!

Normal cost is around £250 I think. I paid less as a few of us booked at same time.

 

[Gibbo]

That seems like a bargain for 2 days worth of work!!

Why I had it done as most £400-600 for what I had done, Autobrite are very competively priced, no wonder he is constantly booked. I can't believe how good it looks in the flesh, I'd never have thought a flat yellow colour could have such a deep shine.

The sun came out earlier and it was truly popping.

 

[Gibbo]

Hi there

The sun tried to come out, did not really manage it, but grabbed a few photos:

Here is rain water beading off the car, still very clean after being driven in poor weather:

I then gave the car a quick wash as was not really dirty and then topped up with some project 32. again very little sun but still car has so much depth to it and for the moments the sun does come the car is so reflective:

One of the things that always make me smile when I am driving the 911 is this view:

Seeing those hips and dat wing, always generates a smile.

 

[Gibbo]

I see you have anti dazzle wingmirrors. I think that supercars (im classing a 911 as this) dont seem to age as much as normal cars. Look at an 80's 911 they look cool, then look at something like and escort not quite aged as well.

In fairness the 911 is probably the most iconic car ever for not aging because Porsche have always played it so safe with the design. The 911 is so easily recognised from the first ever to the latest one, the shape has remained the same, the car has just got a little larger with each generation. If anything the latest 991 edition is the least 911 of any generation as its got rather bloated in its dimensions and the rear end is a bit Aston Martin.

What I do like about Porsche is each generation has got lighter since the 996, for me 993 and 997 are the best looking 911's, they got it wrong with the 996 and the 991 is missing something I can't quite put my finger on even though its fastest 911 by far with the 991 C2S/C4S being quicker than previous 997.2 GT3's.

 

[Gibbo]

Good work there Gibbo, looking good that! I may even have to make an appearance at the next rolling road now that mine is working again. See how many ponies she has lost over the years

If its being rebuilt proper, it should not have lost any. Mine is now nearly 10 years old and 50,000 miles, makes in the region of 375-385BHP, though its got a few bolt-on mods.

 

[Gibbo]

I guess the proof will be in the pudding so to speak. It doesn't really feel any different to before it went in so i would be interested to find out.

RR day!

 

[Gibbo]

Yes its a GTS I have on order. Option wise, near enough the same price as a base 991 with most of what I want on the car but that's spec'ed to me. I did email my dealer with a special request for the paint, as they had a Mexico blue 911 in the reception area. So ill have to wait and see.

I did think about that but I placed the order for the car in September.

The instructor at Silverstone, said it should be due for release around April next year as well.

Absolute perfect spec mate. One thing you forgot to mention on ceramics is how quiet and smooth they are compared to steels, plus zero dust and the disc will last the life of the car.

But you got the spec spot on, sports chassis is sublime and with that you've got a road and track day warrior out the box, sports chassis still include the locking diff too? Buckets perfect, PDK makes going faster easier, epic car mate. Enjoy it nothing will match that for driving pleasure and handling dynamics. It is why I love Porsche they give you everything you need out the box to simply enjoy it in all environments.

Did you get sports chrono for PDK+ and launch control? PSE?

 

[Gibbo]

wow, that will be one special car. How long do you plan to keep it? If you decide to move it on in a few years email me first

I would have assumed the sports chrono and PSE is standard on the GTS?

Good point.

 

[Gibbo]

The PSE on the GTS is different from that of a normal Cayman S, as it's much more audable. As above the Sports Chrono comes as standard fitment on a GTS, I have the PTV as a option as well. I'm just drafting my final spec now.

I did get the experment with the launch control yesterday, even though it was damp it worked very well. I'm not where I am going to use it mind.

To be honest the launch control is not needed, when I had the 981 Boxster, simply mash the loud pedal and it shoots of the line with no fuss and was still around the 5s mark without trying.

As I already said you are building a true drivers car.

 

[Gibbo]

Did you put facelift rear lights on it?

Yup freshened the rear end up a treat.

It's weather like this, cold, wet and damp that really makes the 911 shine, the traction and ability to cover ground so quick with so much interaction is mind blowing. Absolutely mine still!

 

[Gibbo]

Really wonder whats going wrong in this video then...

Additional 100+ horsepower
Cup 2 tyres
Firmer suspension

Are against the GT3, when I was Oulton Park in very wet conditions in my 911 is was passing the GT3 boys as were the other Carrera and Cayman guys.

Semi slick tyre like the Corsa I had not a good combination for wet/cold, mine was absolutely useless and just like the one in that video on the Corsa tyres unless driven very smoothly.



Here I am in the wet and I'm on Michelin cups which are completely wrong tyre but I know my car limits and how to drive:

My mate in his EVO 8 FQ-400 was on rain sports, at a previous track day at Donnington in the dry I destroyed him, so he was confident in such wet conditions he get his revenge. Yet me in my less powerful rear wheel drive car eventually passed him and pulled away.

911's are superb in the wet!

 

[Gibbo]

Strange. Jethro was able to handle the 458 (with the same cup 2 tyres) in the soaking wet. I mean it was chucking it down. And he wasn't breaking a sweat

the shields?

its saying there is still 10+ in stock!

i got mine at 9.05 this morning!

Harris drove both the 458 and GT3. Oth on same day in wet conditions and the GT3 was less trying to kill him. Both were on cup 2's

 

[Gibbo]

Yup. Didn't like those wheels, would probably go with buckets as well instead of sports seats but would keep the PDK which is superb. Kills the M4 in every single way bar 2 less seats and overall speed. Outside of that (for me) I would not consider anything from the current M stable, this owns them all by a MASSIVE margin.

What I need to check now....is does it best a 997 GT3 Gen 1....so got one of them coming soon to have a go in again. Porsche next though, decided.

Stunning ain't they.

I am rather tempted as they are so sorted for me it would be sports chassis, PDK, PSE, Buckets, very capable. I'd say on the road it will better a GT3 as the chassis just seems superb on the road and track. Track work though GT3 will have it.

EVO compared a GTS to Jacks 996 GT3 on track and they were both identical lap time wise, so a 997.1 GT3 will have a slight edge in lap times but the GT3 has the race car feel.