Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

[Gibbo]

I think it's worth being patient, you've got plenty of awesome cars to use in the meantime and when the right one appears you can grab it. You know full well if you compromise a UV car will come up the next day!

OR, sell the 458 and get a 675LT Spider. Please.

No Mclaren can rival the 458 sorry, as a fun supercar for the road not much to be honest will rival the 458, staggering performance aside Mclarens do diddly squat for me. I prefer cars that are fun to drive both at legal speeds on the road and insane speeds on the track, as such I find a lot of cars damn right boring on the road once you get pass maybe the cool looks and sounds which some cars offer.

It is why the GT3 RS is somewhat a wild card for me as I know a couple of guys who have GT3 RS along stuff like 458's and 812's amongst some other cars and they personally feel I would potentially find the GT3 RS a little boring on the road compared to the 458 which is such an event whether its been driven at 10mph or 100mph.

However a GT3 RS was a dream, it still is a dream, just the 458 through the spanner in the works, but if I can get into a GT3 RS and keep the 458 it seems worth while exploring that route, end of the day if its not for me they are quite easy to move on, gonna be the case of meet your hero and either be disappointed or love it, having only driven the RS on track, which I loved I am yet to experience an RS on the road, thank fully the gearing on 991.1 GT3 RS is reasonably sensible, not 458 short, but it is also not crazy leggy at around 70mph in 2nd and 100 in 3rd.

Yes I am going to be patient, I am gonna view the low mileage lava orange with the crazy orange interior, it is worth a look, but I intend on holding out for a fair priced UV with around 15-20k miles which should be more in the 140-150k price region, which is where I want to be.

My other option is just wait until got Emira, enjoy that for Summer, sell it end of Summer and then hunt down a GT3 once Winter is upon us again and maybe recession which could result in some good deals hitting the market.

 

[Gibbo]

@Gibbo I think Ashgood have a purple RS in?

They do, was offered it by the original owner for 146k, but it has no warranty and also no warranty from Ashgoods as such I am leaving it, plus I might have found a car, fingers crossed.

With the amount of both GT3 and GT3 RS I've been offered / found which had new engines or engine rebuilds a warranty is an absolute must as it seems the RS is also quite impacted so anyone considering a GT3 or GT3 RS 991.1 generation, never let your warranty run out. A friend of mine is now on his third engine in his 991.1 GT3, it came with an E series, which I believe did not last long, it then had an F series which did around 19k miles before it registered a high RPM misfire, he has now just got it back with a G series engine in it from Porsche, on a car that had done less than 20,000 miles total.

So warranty is a must or just buy a 991.2 generation as problems seem less apparent but saying that the internet does not reveal much it is only in talking to owners, searching for a car to buy I was shocked at just how many have had a new engine or rebuild, at least Porsche seem to stand by their product and no one has complained to me about the service from Porsche in dealing with the issues, which is good.

 

[Gibbo]

Ashgood usually offer a 3 month warranty as standard, granted not as good as the Porsche one though.
Good news on potentially finding one though!

To be honest, it is Porsche warranty or nothing for me and a car with no warranty would have to go through a 111 and pass that, we all know that even if it passes Porsche could still refuse warranty unless you were to fit say latest N2 cup tyres all round, a friend with an RS who is selling his literally did this for next customer and got hit with a 5k bill as to put warranty on the car OPC insisted it had new N2 cups all round, couple of other minor items, then cost of warranty and service it cost him 5k, he did offer me his RS but its white and for me I wanted UV, Guards or Lava or a PTS really.

 

[Gibbo]

Interesting your finding some RS cars with engine replacement too as I thought the major issue on 991.1 GT3 engines was resolved before the RS model was introduced. Those 12-13 model year GT3 cars are now quickly approaching their 10 year birthday and that 10 year warranty porsche put on them is soon running out eh.

I was of the same mindset so to find three cars two with replacement engines and one a rebuild was somewhat shocking.

Yes the goodwill 10 year warranty ends soon which will mean an OPC warranty will be a must on these cars as the engines do let go.

 

[Gibbo]

Back to 991.1 GTS..... If I look at Autotrader (not my real postcode) they range from £70-£85k. I have first refusal on a car towards the top of that price range and I'm trying to work out if it's priced fairly. The £85k cars generally have ceramic brakes which I appreciate was an expensive option and the Porsche approved cars have a 2 year warranty which costs £2k which means they will be more expensive than comparative cars but otherwise what options are essential and nice to have. Mileage seems to have an impact on price, I'm personally not too fussed about high or low milage though I'm not interested in a very low mileage car as I don't view the premium as worth it.

I'm thinking (for me)

Essential:

• Bose
• Heated seats (I think they all have them)
• Park assist
• Carbon interior bits
• Auto dimming mirrors

Nice to have:

• LED lights
• 18 way seats
• Heated steering wheel
• Reversing Camera

Don't care about either way

• Aero kit
• Sun roof
• Burmeister audio

Any options I've missed out? Any cars that stand out as being great examples for fair price?

As others said gotta have GTS interior pack, buckets be nice too but rare and at very least extended leather interior.

At 85k are you not tempted by a GT3 at all, quite a few about around 100k with OPC warranty. Very comfortable on road still but an absolute mega engine.

 

[Gibbo]

Hi there

I cannot remember if I posted or not here, but in short as long as my friends deal goes through, I am buying his absolutely stunning Guards Red 991.1 GT3 from him, 15k miles, 2yr OPC warranty, full IPE catted exhaust which sounds insane, buckets, extended leather, lifter and a recent full XPEL Ultimate application costing £3700 and the IPE exhaust system was £7000. We have agreed on 110k which I think is fair as finding a 991.1 in Guards red is near to impossible and they always bring a premium.

Its not an RS but after missing out on some UV RS's and then the other cars been available been tracked too hard, modded and no OPC warranty put me off, plus once I am on the GT3 ladder as to speak puts me in a position to easily jump into an RS should one appear and should I still want one, plus it also means I don't need any finance by getting the regular model. Not only that I have always had a love for Guards red 991 GT3's with silver wheels, though the latter is not true it is something I will probably have done.

I already have the plate GT03 GBO for the car which was a good buy for £250, all been well based everything going smoothly for him were planning a collection and dinner on my Birthday, great treat for myself.

 

[Gibbo]

what a beauty gibbo

Indeed, for me its up there with a UV RS on the looks scale, I am debating silver wheels as I prefer that but only thing of consideration is the black stickers on the car and if it would then clash. I could remove the stickers but I do kind of like them and the question is can they be removed easily from PPF or would new PPF then also need to be applied.

 

[Gibbo]

if you want that purple you can always get her wrapped

Nah Guards red is an equal for me, plus wraps never look as good as paint.

 

[Gibbo]

ok whats a top paint job 5K still worth it

Seriously you don't do a paint job on such an expensive car, just wasted cost and will also de-value the car. Buy the right colour in the first place and UV, Lava, Guards red were all at the top, just did not want Lava on the basis on having an orange car already, otherwise Lava would also be fine as its also a great colour.

 

[Gibbo]

Fantastic car and spec, folding buckets are pretty uncommon but kind of useful on a non clubsport. Good price considering the PPF and exhaust aswell, surprised he didn't take the exhaust off to resell.

Well Porsche offered him 105k trade in, along with a 2.5k discount on basis of trade in on car he is after and he valued exhaust at 2.5k in private quick sale as such arriving at 110k value for me to buy, which was fair enough.

Most 991.1 GT3 seem to have folding buckets, the 918 buckets seems a very rare option in the 991.1 GT3, think they were the standard fitment in the 991.1 RS, I just had to have buckets personally and did not care which type but like you say the folding buckets have advantages, plus my mate with a sapphire blue 991.1 GT3 has fitted rear seats into his GT3 due to having a couple of kids, which looks totally OEM and is probably the only GT3 in UK (none touring) with rear seats and belts.

 

[Gibbo]

what is he upgrading too ?

A 991.2 GT3 in Crayon.

 

[Gibbo]

Need to come up with a name for your garage now Shmee @Gibbo

How many cars you got now in the collection

458, Vette, Exige, GT3, Aston, Spyder, GR Yaris and Emira en-route.

I keep saying, downsize, downsize, lol, maybe next year or when the next USED special ICE cars surge in price again in a few years.

 

[Gibbo]

Special car and on further reflection a great deal, think you've done well there. Probably won't cost you a penny beyond servicing fuel and insurance for a couple years at least. We need to arrange an OcUK track outing.

I am at Gawsworth Hall 3rd of June and Donnington in July with Lotus on Track with Exige. Will be sorting more track days and stuff as well later in year.

As I've just obtained some steels and RS19/29 pads for the 458 to vastly improve the on track braking performance so will be looking to get a few track days in to take the 458, Exige, Emira and GT3 on.

 

[Gibbo]

I'll be at Donington but the August day with LoT, places do come up as people drop out.

Will try to get on that.

 

[Gibbo]

Eight cars, good enough for me mate

You ever though of selling a few and buying something really bonkers? I know you wanted a speciale at one point. Don't know how you have the time to drive them all (or pay for all the petrol).

also, has an EV ever tempted you? Taycan turbo S? I'm booked in with Audi to have a test drive of the Etron GT this Saturday. Looking forward to it.

Shmuseum Gibbseum

Out right straight line performance is not really my thing otherwise I’d just buy something like a Tesla Plaid but the honest truth is I find them boring just not my thing as a fun car. As an A to B method of transport then absolutely but I like fun cars and my idea of fun is NA high revving and lightweight and sounds good.

The petrol well I can only drive one at a time so that is irrelevant.

I’d love a Speciale but I try to buy quite smart and I’m not buying one now after they have jumped so much in price and to be brutally honest I’d far rather have a 458 and GT3 rather than just a Speciale and the latter is hugely sensitive to mileage and I do drive my cars so I’d devalue such a car quite a bit unless they literally keep going up towards a million.

 

[Gibbo]

The GT3 looks fantastic @Gibbo hope it all proceeds as planned.

The cleaner lines of the non RS cars in a great colour make a really nice package. The extra performance of the RS must be quite a challenge to realise even on a track day.

Yep all is going ahead, sent him the money and I’m gonna pick it up next weekend.



Photo he took its back on its original plate now and we just did the DVLA car sold thing online and so fingers crossed I should get log book next week and I’ll assign “GT03 GBO” and then when I go get it next weekend we’re gonna put them on the car. He is seeing if he can get the wheels changed to silver for me.

 

[Gibbo]

Silver wheels will definitely look good! Glad it’s happening for you.

Dare I ask about the engine issues on these? I guess if you’ve got a Porsche warranty you’re all good right?

Yep all good, but yes both the 991.1 GT3 and RS version have engine issues. The RS has no goodwill so they must be kept under warranty. The 991.1 GT3 has a 10yr goodwill engine warranty, but again as Porsche warranty is not outrageous expensive and essentially covers bumper to bumper on the car, it is well worth having.

 

[Gibbo]

I'd be tempted to stick with black wheels as you have the black decals, maybe a very dark grey. I love the silver on mine but would add these cars have the dustiest pads I've ever experienced so they look terrible 95% of the time.

Agreed, but love silver wheels and decals can always be removed.

 

[Gibbo]

You didn’t want to keep the “WAP” plate?

Owner is keeping that.

 

[Gibbo]

Just an FYI, those with 981/991.1 era cars PCM 3.1 is easy peasy to upgrade to CarPlay now.

You can get a kit from here https://www.isudar.com/products/car...-cayenne-macan-cayman-boxster-911-718-pcm-3-1

It’s all on one PCB now, no extra cabling or breakout box required. I’ve done it in my GT4 and it’s great, took about 2 hours to DIY most of which is trying to be careful with the trim and not skin your knuckles.

Very nice is this something I can do on my 2014 GT3 as well?