Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)
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Yep, all paid for as it’s from a mate, so transferred him the money earlier this week as he is off to collect his replacement today, long drive to Portsmouth tomorrow to collect it and a nice weekend break.
Awesome stuff Gibbo! I'm at about the half-way point on your journey there/back, feel welcome to pop in and show off the new motor
Making a weekend break so by the time we’re heading back it will probably be late and I’ll just be focused on getting home.
Thanks mate, can’t believe it got heated bucket seats and it drives really nice, the sound is insane.
He is a mate and likes changing cars, he has had 4-5 M4’s and has now moved to Porsches though he has got an M4 CSL on order.
Got the GT3 home, 26mpg on 200 mile drive home. Took it down a few roads I know it was absolutely on rails and can feel the RWS doing it’s thing and the exhaust is obnoxious loud at full chat but sounds glorious. No a single ache after fours of driving it is really comfortable.
Does sound some broken and rattle at idle seems even though they are not metzgers any more the engine and transmission is somewhat chuntery at idle, his gen2 was same too.
Looking forward to driving it more.
I was in this morning, I must look poor, couldn’t get hold of a salesman at all
I've noticed this with Porsche, they more or less totally ignore you, I had to make eye contact for several seconds to make a sales guy realise I wanted to talk to someone.
Walk into Ferrari and greeted with hello, can we help you, would you like a coffee.
I get people don't like pushy sales people but Porsche seem a little too relaxed.
Oh and the GT3, it is one naughty car, maybe a bit too much for the road in all honesty, it is somewhat not exciting at mundane speeds, but this could be also why they are so popular but the car does not really start to come alive until your really pushing it which means not to so legal speeds, it is very capable and very feel some, but it has no real magic at legal speeds to be honest, I still love it but the Ferrari totally has it out classed at normal speeds, always feels insanely special and intoxicating to drive even at low speeds. I shall be looking to do some track days in both this year so will be good to compare them.
As a road car my Spyder is more enjoyable at legal speeds and feels far less naughty on the road, again mainly down to gearing, but it also has less power.
The problem with the GT3 is what makes it also so amazing, you want to chase the 9000rpm redline because it has amazing tone and sounds incredible but its gearing is just a little too long to do that on the public road and it really needs to be over 5000rpm to be really on it, under 4000rpm it is pretty tame. The 458 pulls hard from 2000rpm all the way to 9000rpm and it screams all the way there, admittedly having valves unplugged helps, I'd not dare unplug the valves on the GT3 as its just too loud with the IPE manifolds and exhaust.
Best way to describe it is the 458 is playful, it feels engaging just going down a b-road at 40-60mph and the gearing means you can enjoy gears 1-4 easily on a legal b-road blast because the power band is so elastic. Whereas the Porsche totally eggs you on to push it very hard, meaning you really want to drive everywhere at 60-130mph, the latter really not been socially acceptable or legal, the 458 is just as planted at the limit but the 458 has a feeling of reward and enjoyment without needing to approach its limits, whereas the GT3 feels immensely planted and as such you want to be closer to the limits to feel it alive.
Its a super car, I cannot wait to put more miles on it but I do need to be very careful as it is very easy to totally break the speed limit chasing the fun factor. Shorter gearing would really help it as a road car and the gearing is not that crazy long to be honest. Once your on it and keeping it over 6000rpm it feels not much slower than the 458, the difference been in the GT3 you want to keep going well into triple digits whereas the gearing on the 458 means it satisfies at much lower speeds. If I was 26 again when I had my yellow 911 I'd not care as I was pretty outrageous back then but at same time there was far less cameras to worry about, as I've grown older I've become more responsible and also more aware and that it needs to be saved for the race circuit. Problem for the 911 is there is no way it is passing any noise regulations. As such at @ScoobyDoo69 we definitely need another Curborough track day please.
The colour is amazing, looks bright in the shade, very much post box red, the front lifter is engaged here hence the extra front height to make clearing speed bumps easy.
Has a great spec on it, heated buckets, extra leather, lifter, xenons with PDLS, red stitching, red belts, chrome washer jets, sound system is pretty junk though but it has got NAV, bluetooth and USB, plus an old school CD player which I like, but the exhaust and engine beat any sound system. 2yr warranty, next service next year. Full XPEL Ultimate to entire car, believe it or not it has not been washed and covered around 400 miles yet dirt or water spots do not seem to show at all.
Totally understand your points @Gibbo, revs are it's biggest strength and weakness. Same is true of my GT4 but to a slightly lesser extent, regardless you want to chase that 5-8krpm whenever you can but you do need a good amount of road in front of you to do it. On the flipside it's the only car I've owned where you actually use 1st gear for anything apart from pulling away.
Definitely worth getting it on track. I'm planning an Anglesey road trip for the RMA day on the 25th July, might be one for the calendar
Took @kindai out in it earlier, I am still learning the car but it gives quite a lot of confidence, when that back-end lets go though it needs a bit more lock to correct it than I am used too compared to the Spyder, had to correct it twice to sort it out, did not feel scary though, but I'd say the front-end is more positive in both Spyder and 458, but in fairness to the GT3 your travelling at quite some pace, its outright limits are higher it is just re-learning the whole that 911's reward smooth driving styles compared to mid-engine cars which can just be chucked about.
Warning marmite mod:
Red inserts, I am happy with them but of course easily reversible but I wanted a bit more red on interior.
Another day, another car meet:
Don’t take the mick too much was hilarious how we both turned up in outfits which match our cars LOL!
However unlike the milky way advert this time the red car won the race as the blue car is running in its new G series engine.
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Red inserts, I am happy with them but of course easily reversible but I wanted a bit more red on interior.
Another day, another car meet:
Don’t take the mick too much was hilarious how we both turned up in outfits which match our cars LOL!
However unlike the milky way advert this time the red car won the race as the blue car is running in its new G series engine.
Milky Way - Red Car/Blue Car (original 1989 ad)
This is the original 40 second version from 1989. The 2009 re-release was edited as they can't say it "doesn't ruin your appetite" any more, and was cut down...
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The GT4 is essentially EOL now, the GT4 RS was the last ICE Cayman from Porsche. The next Cayman will be EV / Hybrid, no more ICE.
Porsche GT cars always tend to cost more used than new until several years old and even then they never lose much, I think 981 Cayman GT4 bottomed around 60k for high mileage poor spec comfort examples, but the good ones in 981 generation have typically always been close or around 70k mark. The 718 been the last will for sure hold values well, if they move further northwards then the 981 will also move up with them.
I paid 110k for a 991.1 GT3, about cheapest of the GT3's now the 991.1 generation is as the 997.1 have shot us massively and 997.2 GT3's are now approaching 200k levels.
Porsche GT products are in small numbers and demand always outweighs the supply.
My advice is either buy now whilst you still can or take the gamble and hold out for potential recession and hoping the prices take a fall and be ready to buy, but which of these two circumstances will happen is an unknown.
Any car that is special, limited numbers values are exploding, look at E36 M3's and E30 M3's, shooting north fast.
The customers who are on Porsche GT list are a lucky bunch as they get these GT cars new and can either keep and enjoy for several years and not have any depreciation or flip them and make an easy £100,000
Even overs on 992 Turbo S and 992 GTS are crazy at moment.
When you ever decide to sell that M3, let me know before you do so just in case I am in the market for one.
If you mean the yellow ones in my Spyder they were done by a company called Kolour Concept who operate on social media.
They are a lot of fun, certainly on a circuit!
Had a lot of fun in Wales last weekend, did around 220 miles enjoying the roads.
They can smoke yes and as long as it clears up within 30 seconds it’s normally nothing to worry about and only if it’s been parked for long ish periods.
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So I decided to refit the factory exhaust (service coming up), now I decided to do this the longest way possible, essentially removing everything, may take longer but means I have far more room to work with and as such no having to wriggle things around and risking damaging anything.
Also decided to check out the air filters which seem clean enough but I suspect those will be changed at the service anyway.
Car comes apart so easily, even better news all the manifold nuts/studs came undone without any casualties as I am changing the manifolds, catalyst and entire rear section back to factory system. Manage to get the 02 sensors from passenger side off, but drivers side are more stubborn, so taking those to local garage who will have better tools and can wizz them off for me. But the entire system is removed, the factory manifolds and catalyst are fitted.
Left to do is fit the 02 sensors to drivers side and then refit the catback section and then refit all heatshields and bumper and job be done. Also the tools required to dismantle the car was literally around 3-4 tools, very well thought out and easy to work on.
So I decided to refit the factory exhaust (service coming up), now I decided to do this the longest way possible, essentially removing everything, may take longer but means I have far more room to work with and as such no having to wriggle things around and risking damaging anything.
Also decided to check out the air filters which seem clean enough but I suspect those will be changed at the service anyway.
Car comes apart so easily, even better news all the manifold nuts/studs came undone without any casualties as I am changing the manifolds, catalyst and entire rear section back to factory system. Manage to get the 02 sensors from passenger side off, but drivers side are more stubborn, so taking those to local garage who will have better tools and can wizz them off for me. But the entire system is removed, the factory manifolds and catalyst are fitted.
Left to do is fit the 02 sensors to drivers side and then refit the catback section and then refit all heatshields and bumper and job be done. Also the tools required to dismantle the car was literally around 3-4 tools, very well thought out and easy to work on.
Indeed, I shall be leaving the stock system fitted for a while anyway as I want to get some track days booked and as regular track days are £130-£300 is far cheaper than £550-£750 for unsilenced days, hopefully the stock system will pass the noise test and Donnington and Oulton Park, would hope so as seen plenty of other GT3's stock running without issue.
In fairness the IPE does have amazing tone even though it’s loud, why it’s one of the more popular systems but I’m glad I did not pay the £7000 for it, but it does sound immense but is too loud for track days which defeats owning a GT3.