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I'd like to see some specs/review/benches first but I could be up for selling my 2xGTX Titans for one of these if its any good.....
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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)
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Presumably the longer air cooled card will just have an extended part of the pcb thats blank to accommodate the heatsink.
Also this was just posted on hardocp forum.
That is one very weird looking little card. Just looks like someone has made their own estimate to how the card looks based on the render from yesterday and made a side on pic.
This also looks like it has a proper water cooling block on it. Just take off the rad and pop it into your existing loop
I REALLY want to see some benchmarks for this!!
Mate if that spec is legit, it could be a fair bit ahead, give or take in Nvidia gameworks titles.
I really like my Titan X so not going to part with it yet. This is looking really positive for AMD, I really like TXAA as well extra stuff for Witcher 3 and Arkham Knight, so not sure if I want sell my card..
If that spec is legit though I'll pick one at launch to have a play with for sure. Just don't know if I can part with my TX lol.
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Or custom PCB from the vendors.
I'll go air cooled just because my Mini-ITX can only fit one radiator.
If that spec is legit this is a day one purchase for me.
The bar is going to be raised on both teams now, Nvidia set it high with Titan X performance. Next few years should be awesome for hardware nerds, and expensive
Can you imagine when Nvidia get hold of HBM 2, and a die shrink..
A week or so ago I read a quote where some one said Nvidia could be in trouble. Looking at the spec of the card itself it looks like an absolute barbarian. Then of course it has HBM which right now is a complete mystery. It really could change the performance of GPUs completely and put them in another league.
Personally I quite like the idea of a short card it would make mounting the radiators far easier. I just hope the tubes are long enough to reach where I can mount a radiator stand. If it does I'll be like a pig in the proverbial.
I may even go the air route and stick with that.
TBH if this AMD is all that it's looking to be then you wouldn't get anywhere near what you paid for it any way. Let's say this card beats the Titan X and is water cooled and comes in around £600? it would make your card worth about £450 used. This is the entire reason why I stuck to what I have and ignored the Titan X, because the 980ti's price will be solely based on the price of the nearest competitor which could even be the 390 and that means we are looking at around £450 to £500 for Titan X performance.
Nvidia have had their fun. I'm not sure they could use HBM even if they wanted to but if it's a game changer they could be in serious doodoo. Mind you, the little spiteful woman in me thinks "Good, let's see them on the back foot for a while"
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I was kinda uninterested in these new cards purely as they are arriving soooo late.But 390x really does look like its gonna deliver in more ways than expected.
Cant see these being under 550/600 tho,as that would be a reasonable price.
Cant see these being under 550/600 tho,as that would be a reasonable price.
Nvidia won't be in trouble. They literally own the market right now.
AMD needs a hail mary and this looks like it could be it. AMD can regain some market share and Nvidia can sit back and enjoy the huge profits they have made with Maxwell and then strike back with Pascal next year.
If AMD can achieve this with 28nm and HBM 1. Imagine when both teams get a die shrink and HBM 2. This is going to be reset for graphics, and next few years will be really good. Finally the end of stagnation.
I do expect prices to be shaken up with this launch from AMD.
980 Ti to occupy current 980 price slot and 980 to drop down to around £350. Also a 960 Ti card as well.
Titan X will likely stay expensive with sheer amount VRAM as the selling point. God knows what AMD will charge for a Titan X killer..
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The truth of the matter is that TX owners won't be moving easily towards a 390X even if the performance is close to 20% more.
Marketshare will not be regained with the 390X alone, we will have to see what the 380X and the other budget models do. Then you also have heat, drivers etc.
Marketshare will not be regained with the 390X alone, we will have to see what the 380X and the other budget models do. Then you also have heat, drivers etc.
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It takes about ten seconds and one release to completely change that though dude. If the 390x is better than the Titan X and cheaper that means Nvidia are on the back foot. They're also miles and miles from their next gen which could leave them a year of complete barren sales.
That's not good for any company. Brand alone is not enough to keep you in sales if your product is no match for the competition. People don't buy worse GPUs just because they are made by their favourite company.
As I said though it really comes down to HBM. Do Nvidia even have any plans to use it in the foreseeable? or are they going to do an AMD and stick to what they know (whilst losing tons of money)?
There's no loyalty in the world of computing man. People will buy whatever is fastest and cheapest. And it's starting to look like AMD will have a product for both areas of the market.
LOL of course they will. They will because you paid nearly a grand for a Titan X just so you had the best. If the AMD is 20% faster people will switch. This is a world where bragging rights are the sole reason that most people even buy these products. They buy them because they want the best. Me? I couldn't care but I'm the exception to the rule.
As I said, they will buy the 390x for the same reason you paid nearly a thousand pounds for a GPU with no back plate.
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If it was a 400 pound card yes maybe, but I highly doubt it.
In terms of market share, the effects of this launch won't show until months down the line.
AMD need to do a lot of work just to re-coup what they already lost. Nvidia will just release new cards at that point.
Nvidia aren't in trouble, they played the market perfectly releasing Maxwell high end cards from last September on mature (Cheap) 28nm and have reaped record profits.
This card from AMD looks great, but they have to do the work now and regain what they lost and hopefully some new ground. Historically AMD / ATI have never been this low on market share.
A good GPU launch now will get AMD back on track, but not to Nvidia's deficit. Nvidia will time their next card launch well and adjust pricing. This is how the game is always played, only this time AMD just took longer than normal.
The sector of the market the 390X is going to cater for is pretty small, AMD could take all the sales away from Nvidias halo card and still hardly gain any market share.
If they were to bring out the 390X at a really low price for the performance then maybe you would see a marked improvement in market share but they would have to price very aggressively and also be able to keep up with demand.
I will not help that the 380 etc look to be rebadges rather than cut down versions of the new tech which would improve sales if they were.
If they were to bring out the 390X at a really low price for the performance then maybe you would see a marked improvement in market share but they would have to price very aggressively and also be able to keep up with demand.
I will not help that the 380 etc look to be rebadges rather than cut down versions of the new tech which would improve sales if they were.
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All it takes is one release dude. Look at Nvidia and Fermi. The 480 was crap, the 470 was crap and the 465 was crap. All too hot, too loud, guzzled power and were poor compared to their AMD counterparts (yes they were ever so slightly faster but were also far more expensive).
It got so bad that Nvidia had to take over the sales of their own products and made their own version of the 460 which was their only saving grace. It sold in big numbers, that gave them the cash to come up with the 570 and 580 which were a complete game changer for them and once again they were on top. This was also helped along by ATI releasing the 6000 series which were slower than the 570 and 580.
But yes, that's how quick and easy it is to completely turn things on their head. As I said to Africanos people want the best and they are not loyal. Yeah, some loyal crackpots bought the 470 and 480 but only a miniscule amount.
As I said, if this card is 20% faster that's a clear and precise victory and not one that can be made up by overclocking the Titan X. People avoided going from Sandy to Ivy because it was 5-10% but if this really is a clear 20% faster that's enough IMO.
When the benchmarks start rolling in and their names start dropping on the epeen charts the kerching bells will ring.
I was thinking the same thing, there might be a few 4K users who will make the switch from NVidia to AMD but by all accounts 390X at the types of prices being rumoured will isolate your average AMD user who demands something cheap and cheerful, the 295X2 has hardly sold like hotcakes even at £500.
Yeah your are right it'll be irritating as well if those spec aren't legit. Because then people will act disappointed and could tarnish what is actually another good product from AMD.
'If' those spec are legit we're looking at a monster, but I don't expect it to be cheap. If the card is close to that spec and performance of Titan X. I think AMD still will have a good product if priced right.
Anyways not long to find out now either way..
Off topic, upgraded to fibre broadband today. gone from 1.4mb to 4.4mb ! This is awesome, the time on those huge PS4 / Steam downloads will literally be halved
Woot ! (Sorry about the woot
).This also looks like it has a proper water cooling block on it. Just take off the rad and pop it into your existing loop
I REALLY want to see some benchmarks for this!!
that looks good to me, that plus a micro MB will fit nicely in the In-Win mini D-Frame, because to be honest it'll look too small inside the Phanteks.............the Phanteks looks too big for the Titan X as well
price...........the air cooled will be be about £500...........the Water cooled about £700.............but which is best?...........an air cooled 390X MSI Lightning version, obviously
the Water cooled version is for Wimps
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Personally I might stick with the TX due to the 12GB VRAM just for futureproofing 4K slightly more. I know most will say 8GB is enough, but that's what we use to say with 2GB.
For E-Peen getting 4x390Xs and benching or showing off that you have the king of the hill is different than wanting something to get good results for your resolution.
I personally think 2xTXs are ok for my 4K monitor until early mid 2017. HBM is probably also going to be a lot better by then.
Is AMD stupid enough to offer the 390X (if 20% better than the TX) at sub 700 ...?
I personally doubt it, the card will start at 750-800ish if rumours are true.
For E-Peen getting 4x390Xs and benching or showing off that you have the king of the hill is different than wanting something to get good results for your resolution.
I personally think 2xTXs are ok for my 4K monitor until early mid 2017. HBM is probably also going to be a lot better by then.
Is AMD stupid enough to offer the 390X (if 20% better than the TX) at sub 700 ...?
I personally doubt it, the card will start at 750-800ish if rumours are true.
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