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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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That sounds like the sweet spot performance wise, I got COD AW this weekend and at 1080p it destroys my 290x forcing me to turn more than a few settings down, I'm looking at a free-sync 21:9 monitor (2560 x 1080) in the new year and that'll probably need a pair of 390x's to run comfortably. I would go with the next Nvidia release (fat maxwell) but to do a pair of those with g-sync I imagine the cost will be considerably more than this option.

COD:AW isn't really the least bit demanding. Certainly not compared to the likes of Crysis 3.

My 295x2 (before getting a crossfire profile) could play the game at 1080p, ultra graphics and 4x ssaa (effectively 4k rendered) at over 60fps.

Now I play it at native 4k and there isn't a single slowdown.
 
That sounds like the sweet spot performance wise, I got COD AW this weekend and at 1080p it destroys my 290x forcing me to turn more than a few settings down, I'm looking at a free-sync 21:9 monitor (2560 x 1080) in the new year and that'll probably need a pair of 390x's to run comfortably. I would go with the next Nvidia release (fat maxwell) but to do a pair of those with g-sync I imagine the cost will be considerably more than this option.

COD AW isn't that taxing at all, wouldn't have through a 290x would struggle at all. What is the rest of your build like?
 
I'm not sure where the Hawaii thing came from actually, seen people saying Tonga as well.

No idea with Hawaii - but Tonga based could be likely, the 285 was not the "full" Tonga card.

The improvements in Tonga helped reduce power consumption compared to Tahiti/Hawaii, so definitely the way they will be going, maybe with HBM it reduces power consumption further, to get the figures being quoted?

Nothing stopping the full 2048 shader Tonga from being a replacement for the 280x or 290 e.g. as the 380, and a new "Tonga based" part (but e.g. with 384-bit memory or HBM and 2560 Shaders) being the 390X?
 
GM200, are they not the Titan II and 980TI?

Something along those lines yes.

The problem is you are never going to see full fat Maxwell and cut down Maxwell in the same time frame, they will be separated by 6 to 9 months so NVidia came milk the Maxwell Titan to death.

Or putting it another way however bad NVidias security is there is no way someone could get their hands on both cards because at least one does not exist.
 
Something along those lines yes.

The problem is you are never going to see full fat Maxwell and cut down Maxwell in the same time frame, they will be separated by 6 to 9 months so NVidia came milk the Maxwell Titan to death.

Or putting it another way however bad NVidias security is there is no way someone could get their hands on both cards because at least one does not exist.

All of this is just speculation :), and you may well be right, but i don't think Nvidia releasing the Titan first; which they do for whatever reason (trying to avoid reason for others to use for arguments) means the Cut-Down GM200 does not exist, they could just withhold it from the market until such time they fell they want to release it.

Personally i would like to know how "Captain Jack" is, someone borrowing from the Chinese production line? or an utter fake?
 
All of this is just speculation :), and you may well be right, but i don't think Nvidia releasing the Titan first; which they do for whatever reason (trying to avoid reason for others to use for arguments) means the Cut-Down GM200 does not exist, they could just withhold it from the market until such time they fell they want to release it.

Personally i would like to know how "Captain Jack" is, someone borrowing from the Chinese production line? or an utter fake?

Utter fake.

Which ever way NVidia go about it both versions of their cards won't exist outside their labs at the same time as there is no need for them to.
 
Just because Nvidia don't commercially release the chips at the same time doesn't mean anything to Chinese leakers. The chips are whizzing all around the world at this point for sampling and such, not hard to believe a leak could happen especially with so many young men into gaming these days.
 
Just because Nvidia don't commercially release the chips at the same time doesn't mean anything to Chinese leakers. The chips are whizzing all around the world at this point for sampling and such, not hard to believe a leak could happen especially with so many young men into gaming these days.

I don't think you will find both at the same time outside an NV lab and definitely not in a working card that Joe Blogs can bench.

Also the chances of an individual getting their hands on both of AMDs and both of NVs next gen cards in the same place at the same time must be about or longer than winning the national lottery.

I suppose we could ask Captain Jack what he recons when he has stopped having a laugh.:D

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