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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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humbug said:
Sapphire are AMD's primary AIB partner. i don't know if that means much.

Its strange all the same, what does it take for the 290X to match the GTX 980, a 20% overclock. (1200Mhz) thats not doable for a factory overclock and investment on for an AIB on refreshing the 290X at this late stage?
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No no no

@4K maybe if you underclock the 290Xs by 5% and go 4 up it will give the 980s a chance lol.:D

NVidia have been very clever and optimised the 980s for low resolutions but when it comes to serious work and heavy loads the 290Xs are still king.

If you are a gamer using 4K what use is a fantastic score on 3dmark11 run @720p using 980s when you are using 2160p for games.:)
 
Kaapstad said:
No no no

@4K maybe if you underclock the 290Xs by 5% and go 4 up it will give the 980s a chance lol.:D

NVidia have been very clever and optimised the 980s for low resolutions but when it comes to serious work and heavy loads the 290Xs are still king.

If you are a gamer using 4K what use is a fantastic score on 3dmark11 run @720p using 980s when you are using 2160p for games.:)
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Aren't Nvidia GPU's a bit like compared with AMD anyway, since the GTX 600 Series?

Toms Hardware did an article on it when the GTX 600 series was launched, its not just resolution, they turned IQ and AA all the way up, performance on the GTX 600 series fell off a cliff while Tahiti / Pitcairn held firm, GTX 660TI beat the 7870 comfortably with the watered down settings most reviewers used at the time, cranked up the 7870 screamed past it. for example.
 
humbug said:
Aren't Nvidia GPU's a bit like compared with AMD anyway, since the GTX 600 Series?

Toms Hardware did an article on it when the GTX 600 series was launched, its not just resolution, they turned IQ and AA all the way up, performance on the GTX 600 series fell off a cliff while Tahiti / Pitcairn held firm, GTX 660TI beat the 7870 comfortably with the watered down settings most reviewers used at the time, cranked up the 7870 screamed past it. for example.
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I don't know that much about cards I don't use but out of the stuff I do have it does seem to be bus related with heavy/high resolution settings where the 256bit NVidia cards do worse.

I am still a great fan of the original Titans as NV seem to have got those right first time with a 384bit bus and 6gb frame buffer and for 4K game they still look like the best option, the 980s maybe a little bit faster in some things but for smoothness and quality they don't compare to the Titans.

I would be interested to see how 4 x 8gb 290Xs go as the 4gb versions are slightly better than the 980s @4K and the extra VRAM on the 8gb 290Xs would solve a few problems.

To anyone who says you can not see the difference 8XMSAA makes @4K I would disagree and if you can use it at the resolution it is a good option.
 
Ultimately depends on the physical size of the screen Kaap. If you're running a 24" 4k monitor, you probably wouldn't need or want 8xMSAA unless you've got spare FPS to knock down.
 
I like how wccftech are linking back to images of 8Pack saying R290X is not full fat

http://wccftech.com/sapphire-liquid-cooling-amd-gpu/

Personally think it will just be cherry picked gpus with some kind of water cooling solution.

As long as it beats NVIDIA on a couple of benchmarks, any PR machine can turn it into a reasonable seller.

Other thought would be that maybe they have done something like they did with the 4870->4890, maybe there was a quick redesign/respin that allows higher clocks?
 
Kaapstad said:
I don't know that much about cards I don't use but out of the stuff I do have it does seem to be bus related with heavy/high resolution settings where the 256bit NVidia cards do worse.

I am still a great fan of the original Titans as NV seem to have got those right first time with a 384bit bus and 6gb frame buffer and for 4K game they still look like the best option, the 980s maybe a little bit faster in some things but for smoothness and quality they don't compare to the Titans.

I would be interested to see how 4 x 8gb 290Xs go as the 4gb versions are slightly better than the 980s @4K and the extra VRAM on the 8gb 290Xs would solve a few problems.

To anyone who says you can not see the difference 8XMSAA makes @4K I would disagree and if you can use it at the resolution it is a good option.
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How does the Titan compare with the 780, or even the 780TI?

Is it really just the Bus Width? there are so many different aspects of a GPU that make up its performance, i'm just not convinced its the Bus Width alone? that make the Titan, or Tahiti or Hawaii the stronger cards when things get tough.
 
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Kaapstad said:
Yes the 390X will have no trouble killing the competition (the 980 is not that good).

Yes the 390x will be reasonably priced if you call between £440.00 and £499.99 reasonable.

The only question is how will AMD choose to go about it and the possibilities are huge.:)
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IT CANT BE THAT EXPENSIVE, the 970 is far cheaper and i expect the next Nvidia will be too
 
I hate how quiet amd are actually being, and even Nvidia really, are they both actually struggling? Sat in a horrible 28nm era that they both can't get out of or something, I mean yeah we hear roumers of what will be next 14nm or 16 and skipping 20 etc but surely by now. There should be something to actually keep us excited. We don't actually know anything yet. And I'm bored sat with my 7950 crossfire, but it's not worth the price for me to upgrade untill there is something new.

So cmon amd, get a hbm stacked 16gb 14nm dual gpu water aio cooled card out and then I won't mind spending 900 pounds!
 
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I hate how quiet amd are actually being, and even Nvidia really, are they both actually struggling? Sat in a horrible 28nm era that they both can't get out of or something, I mean yeah we hear roumers of what will be next 14nm or 16 and skipping 20 etc but surely by now. There should be something to actually keep us excited. We don't actually know anything yet. And I'm bored sat with my 7950 crossfire, but it's not worth the price for me to upgrade untill there is something new.

So cmon amd, get a hbm stacked 16gb 14nm dual gpu water aio cooled card out and then I won't mind spending 900 pounds!
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Yep it's def a slow time in GPU's. Right on the edge of new stuff though. Q4 2015 through 2016 things should get very interesting.

I'm really liking how the tech is shrinking down along with lower power use. Would love to replace my desktop with a really small APU or all in one build. Thinking either Carrizo or something like Gigabyte Brix. Then in 2016 the newer tech in small form factor will probably rival 2014 higher end desktop stuff.
 
We know NV are coming with something on 16FF+ maybe Q3. So there is the light at the end of the tunnel, what we don't know is the in between, AMD and the rest of the Maxwell stack.
 
Orangey said:
We know NV are coming with something on 16FF+ maybe Q3. So there is the light at the end of the tunnel, what we don't know is the in between, AMD and the rest of the Maxwell stack.
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AMD just need to get a move on, not delay delay.... and allow NV to get miles ahead of them.

AMD have form for doing exactly that and then scratching heads wondering what went wrong in loosing 90% market share.
 
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AMD’s 28nm GPUs are based on GlobalFoundries’ 28 SHP Node – Alleges Italian Report

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-gpus-28nm-shp-glofo/#ixzz3N2R7MHng
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We recently published a piece telling you that AMD’s 20nm GPUs have been delayed and won’t be appearing in Early 2015 (will appear in later quarters). However the Italian publication Bitsandchips.it has revealed that AMD will be using the SHP (super high performance) 28 nanometer node from Global Foundries for the intermediary 28nm GPUs. But here is the golden question: which GPUs will AMD utilize this process for? The speculated ‘enhanced’ Hawaii’ or early variants of Caribbean Islands?
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