Soldato
I'm glad it did.
Have to agree, we need to see something special this time. Come on AMD don't disappoint us.
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I'm glad it did.
Have to agree, we need to see something special this time. Come on AMD don't disappoint us.
AMD to Switch to GlobalFoundries' 28 nm SHP Node in 2015
http://www.techpowerup.com/208431/amd-to-switch-to-globalfoundries-28-nm-shp-node-in-2015.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/208431/amd-to-switch-to-globalfoundries-28-nm-shp-node-in-2015.html
Caporegime
More info here...
28nm SHP is lower power, higher performance and higher density than TSMC's 28nm
So AMD can pack in more transistors, run at higher frequencies with no increase in power consumption, or possibly a reduction.
They will also be using 20nm SHP, possibly for the high end GPU's
http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...balfoundries-shp-process-technology-for-gpus/
Nice find there Humbug, whatever node it's on I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Nvidfia are still killing it in sales, so many people now have 970/980. AMD need to respond with something new. If it's faster than 980 and power consumption isn't to bad I'll grab one at launch. Biggest thing I wish AMD to address is IDLE power consumption with multiscreens, it's so high VS Nvidia's. LTMatt I hope you can get started in this so I can come back to AMD
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Caporegime
Nice find there Humbug, whatever node it's on I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Nvidfia are still killing it in sales, so many people now have 970/980. AMD need to respond with something new. If it's faster than 980 and power consumption isn't to bad I'll grab one at launch. Biggest thing I wish AMD to address is IDLE power consumption with multiscreens, it's so high VS Nvidia's. LTMatt I hope you can get started in this so I can come back to AMD
I'm thinking higher performing more efficient 290/X as 380/X first.
Later 20nm SHP 390/X monsters.
Soldato
Until AMD sort out their drivers once and for all I will not buy any GPU, no matter how good.
Every single one I have had has never worked properly.
Every single one I have had has never worked properly.
Soldato
Shame, I have owned countless amd GPUs never once had a driver issue..
Don
Might be blind but don't think it actually says anything about 20nm SHP, just that the company will still use 20nm for some products (i.e. products that can be made using LPP or LPE?)
The Italian article linked in the Kitguru article also makes reference to being 20nm bulk process (not that my Italian is in any way reliable
)That is so old it's not funny anymore - might as well say, as soon as NVIDIA stop making GPUs that sound like dustbusters, or show off cards with wood screws, I'm not buying any GPU, no matter how good.
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Never had a single issue with any drivers, be it Nvidia or AMD within the last 6 years. Too many are far to quick to blame AMD for what potentially could be other sytem related issues.
Caporegime
Same here, last AMD Driver glitch i had was in October 2012, since about the January 2013 release of Drivers they have been completely Rock Solid, Install and forget with a multitude of different AMD GPU's.
If anything AMD Drivers are kinda boring for someone who likes fiddling with stuff.
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Soldato
Every single time I've had one it's been a nightmare. And I can't stand it because I absolutely hate Nvidia and their corporate practices (like selling 670s as high end cards, only they're built like a £50 card) and so on.
I had a 7970, didn't work properly in 3D even though I was assured it would. Then it used to put glittered objects all over my desktop (common with AMD it seems) and so I swapped it for a pair of 480s. Not ideal but at least they worked.
Bought a 7990 for £400 toward EOL. Great bargain ! ironically it only started working on drivers released after I replaced it with two Titan Blacks.
Then I bought a 290 and again, was assured it would work. Initial testing I used a driver from AMD, worked OK ! was absolutely gobsmacked. Then I was forced onto a newer driver and it was nothing but issues in Windows.
I then sold that to a person who then had nightmares getting it running, causing all sorts of stress.
I'm fully aware that Nvidia are a greedy pee taking outfit. Just trust me on that ! but ! their drivers always work for me. How am I supposed to argue with that?
Recently I bought a Quadro FX for my workstation and I get driver updates pretty much daily. The nice part? on OSX I can switch drivers on the fly between Nvidia's daily 'web driver' or, the rock solid base driver supplied by Apple.
It's not like I haven't had my fair share of AMD cards. BUT ! every single one of them were problematic and were eventually replaced.
Now some may not like that but tbh? I don't care what people think. If something doesn't work then put simply? it doesn't work. It will get back to AMD because it's their sales they're losing regardless of who wants to jump in and defend them.
8500 Radeon - used to beep my motherboard, then lock the rig. It took 8 months for them to sort that out.
9200 pro - almost problem free. Sadly it did used to crash a lot.
And it's just gone on. Every time I've opted for AMD's supposed amazing performance for the price I've paid the price with their drivers.
Soldato
OSX I had one card and one issue. That does not excuse all the others ! However, I ended up on Nvidia when AMD could have had a sale.
And that's what matters. Not people coming back and attacking me, the bottom line is unless they can sort out their drivers then I will not buy AMD.
Soldato
So because you had a driver issue, that's means everyone must also be having issues correct? I mean you put it across like it's the drivers, if that was the case we would all be having issues..
What you have said for most your issue sounds more like a damaged GPU or you been pushing them to far with overclocking.. Not a driver issue..
Let's just get real here also.. I believe that this year I have seen more reports on this forum about nvidia users having issues with the drivers. Now this can be from poor sli performance, to feature not working together, to not even installing..
Does this mean if I was to buy a nvidia GPU I would also have these issues? The answer is very unlikely..
What you have said for most your issue sounds more like a damaged GPU or you been pushing them to far with overclocking.. Not a driver issue..
Let's just get real here also.. I believe that this year I have seen more reports on this forum about nvidia users having issues with the drivers. Now this can be from poor sli performance, to feature not working together, to not even installing..
Does this mean if I was to buy a nvidia GPU I would also have these issues? The answer is very unlikely..
Caporegime
Do you think that by shouting around that every single AMD GPU you have had in the last X number of years had Driver Issues will convince people that it is as you say an issue with AMD Drivers?
It doesn't.
If you have had 6 of the same car and have taken every one back because the engine blew up; you tell people that's proof that there is a problem with the car, people will laugh at you and say, "Nah mate, its you"
It does quite the opposite.
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Humbug, do you think anyone actually listens to the rambles of a crazy man?
I take ALXAndy posts with a pinch of whatever i can find and move on. Let him get on with his pictures of dragons or whatever it is now.
I take ALXAndy posts with a pinch of whatever i can find and move on. Let him get on with his pictures of dragons or whatever it is now.
Caporegime
Actually it doesn't Humbug. I have known Andy for many years on the forum and had my fair share of disagreements with him but I respect he knows what he is doing and I also respect his honesty, so when he posts that he needs help on something and doesn't get it or that doesn't work, i tend to look a little deeper than the average enthusiast and see that many others have the same issues. The difference is Andy is honest about his issues and speaks fairly about nVidia but to tell him it is PEBKAC is laughable when he has forgotten more than some of you know
Actually it doesn't Humbug. I have known Andy for many years on the forum and had my fair share of disagreements with him but I respect he knows what he is doing and I also respect his honesty, so when he posts that he needs help on something and doesn't get it or that doesn't work, i tend to look a little deeper than the average enthusiast and see that many others have the same issues. The difference is Andy is honest about his issues and speaks fairly about nVidia but to tell him it is PEBKAC is laughable when he has forgotten more than some of you know
Caporegime
Actually it doesn't Humbug. I have known Andy for many years on the forum and had my fair share of disagreements with him but I respect he knows what he is doing and I also respect his honesty, so when he posts that he needs help on something and doesn't get it or that doesn't work, i tend to look a little deeper than the average enthusiast and see that many others have the same issues. The difference is Andy is honest about his issues and speaks fairly about nVidia but to tell him it is PEBKAC is laughable when he has forgotten more than some of you know
You don't really think you saying that means much to me and a lot of other regulars around here, You two are like peas in a pod.
As usual its purely aimed at the unsuspecting and perhaps something to spam Nvidia's inbox with
Caporegime
You don't really think you saying that means much to me and a lot of other regulars around here, You two are like peas in a pod.
As usual its purely aimed at the unsuspecting and perhaps something to spam Nvidia's inbox with
Do you still own shares in AMD?
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