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I totally forgot about the Synapse presentation slides.

Clearly the 500+ sq.mm die must be Fiji, but also what is the 350mm one?

Unless that was Grenada (the 390x), and AMD decided to go for GDDR5 in the end for cost/yield reasons?
 
AllBodies said:
I totally forgot about the Synapse presentation slides.

Clearly the 500+ sq.mm die must be Fiji, but also what is the 350mm one?

Unless that was Grenada (the 390x), and AMD decided to go for GDDR5 in the end for cost/yield reasons?
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PS4 APU or Tonga.

It could be Grenada but it's a little small for that. They don't have to worry about yields on 28nm so they'd probably want a big chip to reduce the drop-off between Fury and the regular line-up.
 
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People still think Nvidia rushed out the 980 Ti as they are scared of Fiji, pmsl! :D
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I don't think it was anything more than a marketing ploy. It doesn't matter if the 980ti is faster or slower than the Fiji card. What matters is that Nvidia is the top selling card maker. People are naturally going to flock to them first.

There are those that were always going to go green and those that were always going to go red, but right now Nvidia are snapping up the on the fence type people. Those people should be waiting to see what AMD can bring to the table, but the temptation is there to buy now. Nvidia knew it and that's why they did it when they did.

Even if Fiji is faster, Nvidia scored a big win releasing probably a month earlier.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
People still think Nvidia rushed out the 980 Ti as they are scared of Fiji, pmsl! :D
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Even if they didn't fear the card it was clearly a reaction to it, it would take a brain dead person to think otherwise. Titan sales were seemingly better than expected and something tells me Nvidia enjoyed milking the big bucks and didn't really want to release a new card that left the old king essentially redundant (3% performance difference for £200 more) just for the sake of annoying there own fans and making it look like they really don't care if they offer you value for money.

After all the TI has plenty of ram, performance and features (DX12) to make the Titan just a (ironically expensive) poor man's choice. Why would they do that just to snap at AMD's heels when they could release the TI afterwards (if there card is better than AMD's) which tends to scurry the launch even more just because it gets the big PR treatment afterwards so sticks in your mind more. Being first out is a kids game, having a more memorable showing (i.e. the last word that sticks in peoples mind) is surely better PR. People on the fence are likely to at least wait to hear there options rather than just jump at the first sign of a good deal, especially if they know other options are coming so soon.
 
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Being first out is a kids game
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Multi-billion dollar industries aren't kids games at all, it's a business where being first out more often than not will gain you the market share (which they have already so I should say more of a market share). If you come out second you better make damn sure it's better or a good bit cheaper. I'm not sure Fiji is going to do either, but we can only wait and see.
 
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McShave said:
Multi-billion dollar industries aren't kids games at all, it's a business where being first out more often than not will gain you the market share (which they have already so I should say more of a market share). If you come out second you better make damn sure it's better or a good bit cheaper. I'm not sure Fiji is going to do either, but we can only wait and see.
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Of course not but when you have the biggest market share by a clear mile and a card like the Titan X (which people seemed to be happy to pay the price of) why undercut YOURSELF by £200 before the competition does? Releasing a week or two after AMD (if the Nvidia card is the stronger one then the TX was already stronger than the TI anyway) would surely not lose them much market share at all. Like I said, it's undercutting themselves and letting AMD have a chance (should there card be better or good value) having the big reveal come out just a week or two after Nvidia's and getting more focus due to this.

Something tells me AMD isn't in the position to sell these within a space of a week or two at the levels that would dent Nvidia market share all that much. I'm not saying the AMD card will be better but it's a strange move for Nvidia to not hold off undercutting themselves. Suppose it could have looked reactionary so they prefer to look like they are leading rather than following though.
 
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Of course not but when you have the biggest market share by a clear mile and a card like the Titan X (which people seemed to be happy to pay the price of) why undercut YOURSELF by £200 before the competition does? Releasing a week or two after AMD (if the Nvidia card is the stronger one then the TX was already stronger than the TI anyway) would surely not lose them much market share at all. Like I said, it's undercutting themselves and letting AMD have a chance (should there card be better or good value) having the big reveal come out just a week or two after Nvidia's and getting more focus due to this.

Something tells me AMD isn't in the position to sell these within a space of a week or two at the levels that would dent Nvidia market share all that much. I'm not saying the AMD card will be better but it's a strange move for Nvidia to not hold off undercutting themselves. Suppose it could have looked reactionary so they prefer to look like they are leading rather than following though.
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It was a smart move, A brilliant move, It's gained them sales, Sales to people who hadn't bought the Tx because of the price, The people that were on the fence hoping for a cheaper way to get the TX level of performance were expecting they'd have to buy Fiji, But Nvidia gave it to them so I imagine a lot of the people who had decided not to pay the Titan money ended up on Nvidia still.
 
Or maybe those people would always buy the next Nvidia card as they already had a G sync monitor? Which knows, sometimes maybe most times a best guess is made which can look like genius or folly depending on the result. Short of industrial espionage I think there is a lot of guesswork. That said it's always fun to speculate, it's pretty much all us lesser mortals can do ;)
 
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