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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)
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It won't matter even if they beat 980Ti by convincingly, as people will be out in full force to say 4GB is not enough for 4K
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It won't matter even if they beat 980Ti by convincingly, as people will be out in full force to say 4GB is not enough for 4K
I've seen over 8GB used at 4K in certain games so I'd say 4GB is a little last gen
It won't matter even if they beat 980Ti by convincingly, as people will be out in full force to say 4GB is not enough for 4K
It's not a case of 4Gb not being enough, it's not enough if you want to use Ultra/High settings.
Yes you can lower settings, but for me that defeats the reasoning for going high res/4K.
Some newer games are pushing 4Gb even at 1440.
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It won't matter even if they beat 980Ti by convincingly, as people will be out in full force to say 4GB is not enough for 4K
If they have good memory compression and you can run a pair of these to max 4K, it won't be an issue but if the memory compression isn't very good and you can max a game at 4K and have the grunt but not the VRAM, that would indeed be a PITA.
Nothing worse than having the grunt but not the VRAM.
GTA V pushes 4GB at 1080P with everything maxed
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980GTX at 1440p...
Dying Light - High Textures - stuttering when engaging canned effects due to lack of available VRAM
Lords of the Fallen - Very High Texture creates persistent stuttering
Assassins Creed Unity - Very High Textures causes persistent stuttering when using any multi sampling. Restricted to FXAA to minimise memory usage.
Shadow Of Mordor...
These are just the ones that I played personally and found issues with at 1440p. As games progress it's getting harder to fit information and high fidelity textures into a finite space, and once DX12 removes the middle ware curtain between developers and control of these resources, it's likely to only get slightly worse in some instances.
Not sure how many games from how many varying developers it will take for people to stop flagging the optimisation card. People need to understand that with DX11(.2) developers can only really hint what they want these resources to do.
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Did you read what you linked? They stated the Nano will be the highest water cooled card.
Also if the flagship is as fast as TX/Ti, then the cut down version (Pro) is easily faster than even custom 980 cards.
TX is faster by 30-32% so taje away 10% for the cut down, its still 20% faster
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Well lets wait and see the real benchmarks....
Maxwell memory controller is not a beefy one, but its quite the opposite at AMD cards...so lets just see if it has negative effects or not. Btw they said 8gb cards coming in august so that will address the deficit if theres any.
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8GB is plenty. A birdy told me that it's not so much an issue with some memory optimisations they've put in place, but there's only so much of that you can do at that level. Boils down to what is being thrown at it.
Don't think they will come out at that price and per transfer level, they said it's the fastest graphics card in the world already so the $900 dollar par must be just above Titan X or nobody would even consider it, also can't see a HBM product being similar in performance to a 390X as its so expensive to produce they would be mad to use HBM on such a low performing card. Although of your right o worry for AMD lol.
$800-900 Fury Nano
$650 Fury XT
$550 Fury PRO
seems more plausible price.
HBM with the shrinked PCB is on par with GDDr5 cost with pcb.
The PBC is certainly cheaper to produce, but GDDR5 is probably cheaper than HBM since new tech can have issue with supply and that increases price.
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I'd dig that...$650 for the full chip on air 4gb HBM..that should fit me well until 14nm
Yea. But in mass production I bet the costs per card are not as significantly expensive as people are making out. Yea will cost more at first untill they have perfected production of Hbm and cost come down but doubt were talking costs 20quid more per card to produce. You just pay a premium fot new tech is all to rake in profits
Yes, The main cost for HBM will be the R&D cost rather than the actually physical cost of materials. At first they will have to sell a certain quantity of HBM cards to break even and eventually I think the Fury cards will end up being cheaper to produce than the GDDR5 cards.
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It won't matter even if they beat 980Ti by convincingly, as people will be out in full force to say 4GB is not enough for 4K
If 2gb isn't enough for 1080p. Then 4gb isn't enough for 4k surely?
4GB isnt enough for 4k its good for 1080p tho. You can probs play fair few games at 4k with 4GB but latest graphically intensive games wont like small measly 4GB
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