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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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humbug said:
I think your missing the point, Kaap may have spent £500 on a 290X but the other 95% of us didn't, thats 95% of AMD's user base with nothing other than Nvidia to look to.

If AMD don't understand this then something is very wrong there, or perhaps they just don't have anything other than a damp squib Fiji (if the rumors are to be believed)

Yet we know they do.

2x + the Tessellation throughput.
Delta Colour Compression.
Texture Compression.

All ^^^ will push the performance of a 290X spec card up significantly

AMD's Carrizo APU has a mind blowing 250% performance per Watt increase....

If these rumors are true then AMD chose not to use their existing new technologies.

Or...or the rumors are a nonsense.
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I purchased 2x 290x on launch day for £500 each and they flew out of OCUK with preorders backing up. The remaining lineup was all rebrands with very slight performance improvement yet AMD survived.

This time round will be exactly the same, all rebrands with a slight improvement, other than the top tier cards, Fiji.

All I am saying is this launch line up is basically the same as the 2xx series with the new GPU, hence where I mentioned it's a continuing trend of AMD gfx card releases.


EDIT: I would imagine that complete 95% of AMD GPU sales will not be the top tier cards (290x/Fiji). They are aimed at a very small market in comparasion to their total market.
 
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Silent_Scone said:
Can I guess from the casual internet denial from that, that some of you may be underrated for Fiji then lol.

Some of you never cease to amaze. Don't shoot the messenger.



Yeah? Mine doesn't. Most power user systems don't.



SFX, not XFX, numb nuts :p
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Are we talking minimum recommended PSU or PSU for 'power users'?
 
No you probably wouldn't seeing as you didn't even know what the formfactor is?

For the record I have a Silverstone SFX PSU 600w in my HTPC and it powers a 980GTX just fine. Don't worry, just thought I'd relay what was said by the rep. "Don't panic Mr Mainwaring"!
 
bru said:
Well in my book a rebrand is the same chip in a new card in the same configuration , if that same chip is remade on a new process then it is no longer the same chip.:)
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I agree with you too, however my question was if the Hawaii specification was transposed onto a smaller node, would you still be happy?

Power savings, smaller die, cheaper to produce, cheaper to buy, etc
 
humbug said:
Yes, i'm looking for a card at around 980 performance for <£350

I have a 290, obviously i'm not going to buy another 290 for £300 when i already have one, <£500 is out of my range.

Lets think, 270 owners are not going to go out and buy another 270 under another name, and 280 owners.......

If these rumors are true, and i doubt they are.. AMD have nothing for their current owners, its all what their current users already have for the same cost of what they already have.

The only thing for AMD owners to do if they want to upgrade is to move to Nvidia, That would be the only option AMD would have given its current users.

If all this is true i predict a catastrophe for AMD pending
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I am a 7950 user and I nearly bought the 8gb 290x Gibbo special deal.
I could have had 290 performance but I decided it wasn't enough of an upgrade. If the 390 is a rebrand then I could have had maxwell 970 when it first released instead of waiting but that too wasn't enough of an upgrade.

I can see myself spending the extra and getting a 980ti as I feel it will meet my needs.
 
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Davedree said:
I agree with you too, however my question was if the Hawaii specification was transposed onto a smaller node, would you still be happy?

Power savings, smaller die, cheaper to produce, cheaper to buy, etc
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I did answer that but not in detail, if i didn't already have a 290 i might depending on cost, £230.

But i already have one, the difference in power consumption is not even on the radar for me, even at massive 100 Watts less it would take me 5 years to get my money back and my GPU is stressed about <8 hours a day as i spend a lot of time in Cryengine.

As for thermals, at 1120/1400 it never breaks 70c in 2 straight hours of BF4 with V-Sync off.
 
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humbug said:
Sure it does, it still wouldn't power my rig.
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How's it meant to power Fiji then? Ok, well nice talking to you...:confused:

In conclusion, any sane person would at the very LEAST on a primitive level would take the comments by the rep to mean Fiji is going to be pretty power hungry...but you carry on, humbug. It's all nonsense isn't it. Just like the 390X is going to be Tonga. Sorry I spoke and disturbed the circle...... whatever it is!
 
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So some rep somewhere mentioned that 600w isn't enough to power a new furry.

That isn't really anything to worry about, NVidia's own page recommends a 600w PSU for a TitanX.

Can we have a link for this rep mentioning this, so we can see the context. Was he just saying that the recommended specs says it needs a 650w so a 600w isn't enough or was he saying that it physically needed more than 600w.
 
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humbug said:
Edit ^^^^ nether mind :)

I did answer that but not in detail, if i didn't already have a 290 i might depending on cost, £230.

But i already have one, the difference in power consumption is not even on the radar for me, even at massive 100 Watts less it would take me 5 years to get my money back and my GPU is stressed about <8 hours a day as i spend a lot of time in Cryengine.

As for thermals, at 1120/1400 it never breaks 70c in 2 straight hours of BF4 with V-Sync off.
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The cost is a factor but imagine we had the die shrink and like you demonstrated a few pages back tonga would have to sell for £130-£150 and full tonga 3/4gb depending on memory bus £160-£200. Meaning the 390 would be in the £200-£300 mark again, but with a smaller die and substantial power savings.

If you owned a 6970 you wouldn't have really bought the 7850-7870 but it was a midrange die shrunk new gen that replaces the 6950/70 with another tier above 7950/7970.
We should see the same again but the lack of die shrink is a bummer.
 
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Davedree said:
I am a 7950 user and I nearly bought the 8gb 290x Gibbo special deal.
I could have had 290 performance but I decided it wasn't enough of an upgrade. If the 390 is a rebrand then I could have had maxwell 970 when it first released instead of waiting but that too wasn't enough of an upgrade.

I can see myself spending the extra and getting a 980ti as I feel it will meet my needs.
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This is where I am too. Currently on a 280X. The 970 isn't enough of a jump, nor is the 290.

The 980ti is utterly beyond my ability to **** money up the wall, however ;) Even if I knew I was going to get hit by a bus next week I wouldn't be able to justify spending that much on a gfx card!
 
FoxEye said:
This is where I am too. Currently on a 280X. The 970 isn't enough of a jump, nor is the 290.

The 980ti is utterly beyond my ability to **** money up the wall, however ;) Even if I knew I was going to get hit by a bus next week I wouldn't be able to justify spending that much on a gfx card!
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I could stretch to the 980ti it would take me 2 months, but I feel it's wise just to hold out that little longer just in case of price changes. But I'm not getting good vibes. Like the prices vs performance will remain stagnant at the area i'm interested in £300-400.
 
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