At least not for profit, enough of greedy, selfish, sweary word needed people. More greater good type people who do it because it needs to be done, not because they can gain from it.
Power to Mick Lynch
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Yes, once the hordes of managers have been dealt with.
Ah and what do you work for?
Cold hard cash baby. I tried offering mu misses as payment for my house. No go I’m afraid.
I always thought the bloat in middle management (and the subsequent unaffordable final salary pensions) was a result of the previous Labour government.
It would be interesting the see if this has increased over the last 12 years. If it's just got worse then consecutive Conseravtive governments are just as guilty.
Fixed for you.
Evidence rather than opinion would be useful.
I assume you're a manager. It'll be up against the wall for you then I'm afraid.
Because things right now is awesome for so many people.
He doesn’t do a lot of work though does he based on how much he posts on here.
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so they don't support unions? Dumbest logic ever....over what is a few days inconvenience.I brought the support many members here have shown for Mick to the attention of a customer unable to bring his car today as he could not get trains back home.
"Power to Mick Lynch? I agree with that entirely, about 2000 volts at 10 Amps". he splutteredIt seems some people are not fully supportive of his antics
Also this strike wasn't a surprise - the vote was over 2 weeks ago!
The problem with that though is the expectation on the taxpayer to keep funneling money for it's upkeep and updating it. Especially when the majority of taxpayers don't use the rail network.
Taxpayer ends up paying for it one way or another.
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Rail network contributes a fair bit in taxes and manages to line the pockets of the leeches at the top. Would have thought it would fund itself? (I have no idea if it would.....)
Red Robbo (The driving force behind 500+ strikes) was notoriously against modernisation and any form of change, the industry really needed to pivot in terms of it's approach to design and manufacture, but how do you do that with such a strongly driven union? They'd never have agreed to the Japanese methods of production and their continuous improvement approach to quality.
I was working at Toshiba and saw the effect of unions first hand.. we wanted to automate some testing and whilst the idea was to then move the operator on to another manual testing role or somewhere else in the factory, i.e. not be made redundant, the unions where pushing this idiotic narrative that it was directly removing the need for the operator and therefore effectively making them redundant. I remember the vote to strike with the notion it was the 'tip of the iceberg'..
The way the Japanese designed and manufactured was a pleasure to have experienced and has taught me a lot, however, there is a reason staff referred to the place as Tenko (fictional prisoner of war camp).. it was not a nice relaxed place to work and I can see why unions would resist that..
I agree the industry really did need to change and bring itself "up to date" with the world, with that said however...
Modernization in the production of motor vehicles would have in no way helped our failing car industry. You could have updated every section of the manufacturing line to be as automated and "modernized" as possible, but if the people "at the top" are still designing **** cars, using cheap components and crap materials, it would have made no difference.
Modernizing a production line does not suddenly correct all the issues with the utterly garbage cars we were churning out, trash from British Layland and Austin would still have been awful in comparison to the Japanese imports that were hitting the market at that time.
Don't quote me, but I recall reading years ago about profitability of certain routes. As expected pretty much all routes in and out of London bring in more than they cost to run. But a lot of rural routes especially those in Scotland (maybe less so around Edinburg/Glasgow) end up costing more to run than they bring in.
If everyone goes on strike it’ll bring down the government 11!1
BA next.
Barristers trying it but the Lord chief message seems to be a veiled threat about it. People getting potential professional disciplinary action or wasted costs against them… but yet the non-driving train staff get a few days extra paid holiday whilst the country sits in misery. Justification rounds on tory this and tory that, cake and wine blah blah. Two wrongs don’t make a right and lockdown parties at no 10 don’t justify what they’re doing. The public suffer
Economic torts were brought in a long time ago to stop this sort of thing. I wonder whether one of the striking barristers fancies bringing a claim against the train strikers and BA strikers.
BA next.
Barristers trying it but the Lord chief message seems to be a veiled threat about it. People getting potential professional disciplinary action or wasted costs against them… but yet the non-driving train staff get a few days extra paid holiday whilst the country sits in misery. Justification rounds on tory this and tory that, cake and wine blah blah. Two wrongs don’t make a right and lockdown parties at no 10 don’t justify what they’re doing. The public suffer
Economic torts were brought in a long time ago to stop this sort of thing. I wonder whether one of the striking barristers fancies bringing a claim against the train strikers and BA strikers.