Prince Andrew not served papers as they were handed to his police security.

It'll be interesting to know if she does a Rose McGowan style thing, and throws out the agreement and publicises the content.

She won't do that, she has proven that given enough of an offer she'll sign and walk away, obviously while this is going on the dirt being thrown increases as does the amount to silence her, and don't forget, while all of this is going on, be it Andy or someone else, she's getting hella rich for giving interviews and being the front person for this NFP she has....
Also, forgive my ignorance on the subject though, does Andy have rooms full of women coming out of the woodwork and accusing him, as per Epstein and Weinstein etc or is it just her?
 
It's interesting that posters who always go on about rape gangs seem to think Andrew is innocent. I wonder why.

It's not so much that he is technically innocent, some people are pragmatic enough to see the disparity in sexual consent laws, and that this girl looked radiantly happy to be with a high ranking British Prince and being jetted around the world to exotic locations and mixing with wealthy celebrities.

I doubt she would have looked so happy being shared by private hire cab drivers and their relatives above a kebab shop in Rotherham. I imagine age has caught up with this woman, the looks and attention, not to mention money, have slipped away, and bitterness and greed have set in.
 
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She won't do that, she has proven that given enough of an offer she'll sign and walk away, obviously while this is going on the dirt being thrown increases as does the amount to silence her, and don't forget, while all of this is going on, be it Andy or someone else, she's getting hella rich for giving interviews and being the front person for this NFP she has....
Also, forgive my ignorance on the subject though, does Andy have rooms full of women coming out of the woodwork and accusing him, as per Epstein and Weinstein etc or is it just her?

I'm not sure either. I think the one consistent thing almost everyone who has met him has said is that he's a complete ********. Haven't heard of other women.
 
Bill Wyman, of The Rolling Stones fame, was 47 when he started dating Mandy Smith who was 13 at the time and that was in 1986! Its always amazed me how he got a pass on that one.

What in the actual ****!?
If my 13 year old daughter rocked up with someone 3 years older than me they'd never find him, why arent we boycotting the band in the same way they did with Jacko, jesus ******* christ..
 
Mostly because he left the band nearly 30 years ago.

Yeah, I had a quick Google after posting the above..

On 2 June 1989, aged 52, Wyman married 18-year-old Mandy Smith, whom he had fallen in love with when she was 13 and, according to Smith, had a sexual relationship with when she was 14

Soooo, he's admitted rape then, where were the kids parents, where are the historic rape/child abuse allegations..
 
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Soooo, he's admitted rape then, where were the kids parents, where are the historic rape/child abuse allegations..

And old skool culture of Rockstars and groupies. He isn't an isolated case. There will be many musicians tied into similar behaviour. Lots of drink, drugs and young girls throwing themselves at these people.
 
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Soooo, he's admitted rape then, where were the kids parents, where are the historic rape/child abuse allegations..

No idea about Mandy Smith’s father, but her mother, Patsy, 46, went on to marry Bill Wyman’s son Stephen, circa 30, from Bill’s first marriage.
Bill Wyman’s marriage to Mandy when she was 18 and he 52 only lasted 23 months, as Wyman left her, allegedly due to some “wasting disease” which saw her drop to 5.5 stones.
Having always seen rape as a crime where someone dragged a woman into an alley and forcibly penetrated her, I had difficulty seeing Wyman as guilty of that crime, but if at 13 the law deems a girl to be too young to give consent, then I guess that having intercourse with a girl that age IS rape in the eyes of the law.
 
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Soooo, he's admitted rape then, where were the kids parents, where are the historic rape/child abuse allegations..
Elvis Presley "did all but penetrate" his Wife when she was 14. He was on tour in the army and she was just a young girl in Germany*.

Lots of this happened in the "good old days" as the boomers call it.
 
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Elvis Presley "did all but penetrate" his Wife when she was 14. He was on tour in the army and she was just a young German girl.

Lots of this happened in the "good old days" as the boomers call it.

Elvis Presley’s wife Priscilla was the step-daughter of USAF Officer Paul Beaulieu, she was born in Brooklyn New York.
Priscilla’s biological father was US Navy Pilot James Wagner, killed in a plane crash in 1945.
 
You should offer your services to Andrew's defence team.

First of all I wouldn’t help them in any way, even if they asked me, and second of all, my indiscretions as a 31 y.o. with 18, 19, and 20 y.o. women were all as a result of them miraculously finding me somehow attractive :confused:, (Specsavers weren’t around then), or my sparkling repartee too much to resist :cool:
In addition, they were ordinary, regular London girls/women, none of them were shipped in by some billionaire financier to some exotic island, (Sheppey? Isle of Dogs? Canvey?) purely for my pleasure.
 
How are they going to extradite him for a civil case in the US for alleged claims based in the UK?
If he refuses to go and refuses to offer testimony or send his lawyers it'll be a default judgement.

Basically the same as over here for civil proceedings, if you don't take part once you're informed of the case the court can find a default judgement against you.

Admittedly it won't do much to him, but will be another massive embarrassment for the royals, especially if the US courts start chasing payment and going after any assets he has in the US (bank accounts, any property, investments etc).
 
Does anyone know what the deal is re: service of papers? It seems a bit ridiculous now - like it's turning into some sort of formal roleplay scenario for the sake of pointless procedure no?

I get there are legal questions re: jurisdiction but other than that? Prince Andrew's representatives were in court in the US to argue (at least in part) that papers hadn't been properly served right?

Yet surely the service of papers is to give the other party proper formal notice of proceedings?

But if that party literally has a representative in court arguing on his behalf about whether or not the papers have been served then... WTF? It's just turned into a really silly charade where they're in part claiming that papers haven't been served properly (ergo they officially haven't been given official notice of these proceedings) while simultaneously being in court and arguing the toss over the same and are clearly very aware both of the serving of papers and the fact they've both been mailed to Andrew and delivered in person to his residence etc...
 
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