Pro Cycling Discussion 2016

That will come in handy when the tour starts, thanks. :)

What should I do about learning the history and current teams participating? Also about the people to watch out for?

Also, do you happen to know which channel in the UK shows most of the cycling? Is it still Eurosport?

AG2R La Mondiale and FDJ (or Française des Jeux) are the French teams, the main riders to look out for are Romain Bardet and Thibaut Pinot respectively, GC wise. They have predominantly French riders, and are focused on nurturing young French talent. There's a bit of a rivalry between them, certain riders take it more seriously than others.

Astana is a team with a somewhat questionable history, owned by Alexander Vinokourov (an ex doper) and they came close to losing their license this season. I'm not one to tar everyone with the same brush, but they generally aren't very well liked by English speaking fans. They have got a lot of results lately though, and they have some quite classy riders who spruce up the race in interesting ways. For the tour, their main riders will be Fabio Aru, and Vincenzo Nibali. If you get a chance to watch the latter take on a technical descent it's definitely worth taking.


BMC is one of the 'American' teams, their main riders will be Tejay van Garderen, who's had trouble in previous years but is still a very capable rider who's just come off the back of a relatively successful Tour of Switzerland, and Richie Porte, who they signed last year after he got sick of always playing second fiddle on Sky's GC team.

Etixx Quick Step is a fairly popular team, their main aims for the tour will be to get as many stage wins for their sprinter, Marcel Kittel, as possible. And he looked to be on amazing form earlier in the year at the Giro, where he was winning sprints by several bike lengths and making it look easy. He'll certainly be the one to beat. They do have a bit of a GC contender in the Irishman, Dan Martin who also seems to be on good form. He's maybe not quite at the level of some of the other contenders, but depending on how the race goes he certainly has the potential for a top 10 overall or hilly stage win.

IAM Cycling is a team which, unfortunately, looks to be closing their doors at the end of this season if they're unable to find a new sponsor. They aren't exactly known for their great results, but they do have some very talented riders who you'd expect might try to prove something in the hopes of securing a contract for next year. Mathias Frank is in for a shot at another top ten overall, but most of their team is capable of something on their day like a stage win from a breakaway.

Lampre - Merida is an Italian team, and the joke is that they only actually try in Italian races ;) Rui Costa is a very capable climber regardless.

Lotto Soudal is another sprint team, and they'll be working for André Greipel who's a definite contender for Kittel, and he's a fairly popular personality off the bike. They also have Adam Hansen who is hugely popular among the more nerdy cycling fans - he designed the logistics software for his team, he makes his own carbon fibre shoes and he holds the record for completing the most consecutive grant tours - after the Giro d'Italia earlier this year he's on 14, the Tour de France would be his 15th.

Movistar are one of the main contenders for overall victory this tour. They have Nairo Quintana who is one of the best climbers in the world and often seems to improve over the course of a three week tour, when everyone else fades. He has Alejandro Valverde to support him, who'd be capable of leading the team himself. Pretty much all of their other climbers have had great results this year - Moreno, Anacona, Herrada and the Izagirre brothers. And they also have Alex Dowsett, the British national time trial champion (who will be defending his title today I believe) who'll be a huge help on the flat.

If you're looking for a team to support, it's hard to look past Orica GreenEDGE. They're not one of the top sprint teams, but they have Matthews, Gerrans, Albasini and Impey who can all get a good result on a bit more of a difficult finish. They're not one of the top GC teams, although they have Adam Yates, the brit who's been riding from strength to strength over the past few years. They brought on a few new climbers this year to help support their GC efforts, although they have nowhere near the budget of the big GC teams. What they have though, is a fantastic youtube channel that'll be doing daily behind the scenes videos, and these really helped me when I was getting into cycling because they let you see the human side of the sport, and you get to know the team and become invested in them doing well.


Cannondale are the other American team. They haven't announced their team yet, they have a few riders who might have a chance of a good result on the overall but they'll most likely just be going for stage wins or maybe the mountain classification depending on how things pan out.

Giant - Alpecin are another sprint team. Warren Barguil or Laurens ten Dam might be in with a chance of a top ten, but they'll likely be riding for John Degenkolb in the sprints. They suffered a lot from a crash during training earlier this year when a motorist was driving on the wrong side of the road, which took a lot of their riders out of commission for the early season. Degenkolb is definitely a world class sprinter, but he was caught up in that crash and he's been slowly building back up to racing, I don't think there's anyone in cycling who wouldn't want to see him do well.

Katusha are another team not particularly well liked by the English speaking world, but a lot of their riders are confusingly. They have Joaquim Rodríguez, a very regular GC contender of the past decade. He's probably winding down his career at this point, but a lot of people feel he was 'robbed' of a good result just be not being good enough at time trials. They also have Alexander Kristoff, definitely one to watch on the sprint days.

LottoNL - Jumbo are a dutch team, and they get a lot of support from dutch fans. They've maybe struggled to get results in the past, but their main aim will be to get Wilco Kelderman as high up on GC as they can.

Team Sky. Yes. Definitely the other big GC Contender with Chris Froome looking to defend his title, and a very strong team. They haven't quite looked as dominant as previous years though, so it will be a very interesting battle. The team isn't particularly well liked outside of Britain, they have a bit of a reputation for making races "boring", for snapping up promising GC riders to use as domestiques and even for trying to force riders into certain roles where they're not happy. You'll have to reach your own conclusions about that, but evidently their bigger riders are very happy where they are.

Tinkoff is another team that looks to be shutting down at the end of this year. Their big GC rider is of course Alberto Contador, who has to be a contender for overall. He was planning on retiring at the end of this year, but after some good results seems to have gone back on that. Last year he attempted to win both the Giro and the Tour, but found he was just at too much of a disadvantage compared to riders who had rested more in the early season. So this year he's concentrated entirely on the Tour, and is expected to be a big player. They also have Peter Sagan, the current world champion and one of the big personalities of the sport at the minute. Expect him to go for sprints, breakaways and probably the points classification.

Trek - Segafredo are a bit of an 'old hat' team, they'll probably be looking to pick up a few riders from teams that are closing their doors next year - I think there's been rumours about Contador. As it stands, they have Ryder Hesjedal and Bauke Mollema for the overall, Fränk Schleck maybe for a stage win, but their main focus has to be on Fabian Cancellara in his last year of racing. Hugely popular both within the peloton and the wider sport, expect him to go well in the ITT stages and possibly try a late attack on a stage he thinks might suit him.

Dimension Data are a team it's very hard not to support. Their aim is to bring cycling to Africa, and to foster African cycling talent. They work closely with the charity Qhubeka, who get bikes to communities without other forms of transport, which helps a lot with kids being able to get an education or families being able to support a business. They have a couple of great British riders in Mark Cavendish and Stephen Cummings. Cav has maybe passed his sprinting peak compared to some of the younger guys in the peloton, but he's definitely got some good results in him yet and will be wanting to add to his TdF stage wins tally. He's also going to the Olympics to race the omnium and act as a back up for the team pursuit of course, so it'll be interesting to see if he stays the whole tour. Cummings got an amazing stage win for the team on Mandela day last year, and he'll be hoping to repeat the feat on certain stages you can bet he's already got earmarked. He's a big powerhouse but he can also get over the climbs, and all of his wins the past couple of years have been from a solo breakaway, either within the last km or the last 60km. They also have Edvald Boasson Hagen, who'll probably want to go for some of the sprint stages, and some promising GC riders who might go for a stage win or the mountains classification.

The other teams are a lower 'tier', and had to be invited to participate. Nacer Bouhanni of Cofidis is another sprinter to look out for, although he's not generally well liked for his tendency to get aggressive or to box others in. Expect Thomas Voeckler and Sylvain Chavanel of Direct Energie to spice things up with some quite frankly ridiculous attacks on a climb :D
 
And as it's only a week until le tour. British nationals are underway. Dowsett once again the British champ for men and simmonds for women.

Road races this coming Sunday in Stockton. Guessing they'll be on one channel. Not entirely sure as I'm stuck in Paris!
 
Thanks for the updates!

Perma, you keep mentioning the letters GC. What do these mean?

Also, I'm guessing these bike races are not just as simple as who crosses the line first? It seems their is always sections during the stages, like sprints and mountain climbs? The people who specialise in these, obviously aren't aiming to cross the line first. So what are they aiming for?
 
GC = General Classification.
That is, the rider with the best accumulated over all time who wears the yellow jersey (Tour) or the pink jersey (Giro) etc.

During stage races there is a lot of races going on like you hint at. The GC contenders will be protected until late into hard stages where they will have used up all their team mates to save energy and then they launch their attacks against each other. In these situations, a GC contender might win a stage (first across line).

Typically, you don't see the first hour of a race, which is when most racing is happening and the breakaway is trying to form. The peloton all start off at same time and as soon as the neutral zone is ended the attacks start flying until a break of a few riders or a lot more can get a sizeable gap off the front of the main peloton. It is then the order of the day for the breakaway to try and stay ahead of the peloton until the end of the stage, sometimes they make it and one of these riders wins but most often the peloton catches them when they decide to work for it and bring them back.

Prime sprints in the middle of the stage are first over the line awarded, so if you have a breakaway ahead of peloton, sprinters may try get in it for these points over the sprint lines and exactly the same for the KOM (King of the Mountain) which is the climbing classification. First rider over top of mountain over the line gets the most points, 2nd gets fewer, 3rd fewer again etc. So it is typical the KOM is domainated by a consistent breakaway rider who gets into the breaks a lot over the 3 weeks and summits the climbs ahead of the main field.... Consistency is the absolute key for the points (sprints) and KOM jerseys over the 3 weeks of the entire tour.

The GC contenders on grand tours (Le Tour, giro, Vuelta) won't contest for the KOM jerseys specifically, but they are the best of the best when it comes to climbing mountains, they have to be. So you might see the likes of Chris Froome in the polka dot jersey for mountain classification at some point during the tour but this is a by-product of what they are actually competing for which is the GC.

The GC leaders which have all been named above generally have 4/5/6 domestiques (slaves, helpers, sacrifical lambs) that ride for them on the front and expend all there energy protecting and helping their GC contender (protected rider). The rest of the team will be made up of all rounders, sprinters etc who will be looking for stage wins and the points but for majority of teams even these guys will be reduced to looking after the well being and overall protection of their GC guy.
 
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Thanks for the updates!

Perma, you keep mentioning the letters GC. What do these mean?

Also, I'm guessing these bike races are not just as simple as who crosses the line first? It seems their is always sections during the stages, like sprints and mountain climbs? The people who specialise in these, obviously aren't aiming to cross the line first. So what are they aiming for?

GC is General Classification, basically the lowest accumulated time across all of the stages. On the results sheet you'll see this as the rider in the lead at 0 seconds, and all the other riders however many seconds/minutes behind them.

This video might explain some of the motivations behind the "other" races:

 
Team GB squad for the olympics announced:

Men's track squad: B Wiggins, M Cavendish, J Kenny, P Hindes, C Skinner, O Doull, S Burke, E Clancy, R Owens.

Women's track squad: L Trott, J Rowsell, R James, K Marchant, K Archibald, E Barker, C Horne.

Men's road: G Thomas, C Froome, A Yates, P Kennaugh, I Stannard.

Women's road: L Armitstead, E Pooley, N Harris.

Men's BMX: L Phillips, K Evans.
 
Cav's inclusion does seem to be heart over head nostalgia from British Cycling which isn't really like them, would be great for him to finally bag an Olympic medal but I can't really see it happening!
 
Thanks for the updates!

Perma, you keep mentioning the letters GC. What do these mean?

Also, I'm guessing these bike races are not just as simple as who crosses the line first? It seems their is always sections during the stages, like sprints and mountain climbs? The people who specialise in these, obviously aren't aiming to cross the line first. So what are they aiming for?

Also to everything else posted (which is all top stuff), check out the videos by Cosmo Catalano on YT. Specifically how the break was made and rules of a group sprint. He has analysis of many of the recent big races and while he assumes a fair level of knowledge, he helped me greatly understand the subtleties of bike racing.

Also, ignore everything Phil Ligget and Paul Sherwan say. They talk consistent drivel!
 
Ligget & Sherwan are ITV (are they confirmed for this year?)

You can have a good game of buzz-word bingo though...

He's cracked
Select bunch/group
Free to fly to victory
Climbing back into contention
 
Phil and Paul are the ITV live commentators, I would guess that Carlton Kirby will be doing Eursport (he's better but very excitable!)

In other news, Greipel beat Kittel in the German RR yesterday. Shots fired for Stage 1!
 
Cav beaten in the final sprint of British Cycling National Road Championships men's road race.

Looks like Can gave up with a few meters to go, else he might have got it.

 
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