Pro Evo 6 - Xbox 360 League.

i'm in, can we use teams other people have chosen or not? Only fair considering I play as one already said primarily. If not I'll play as manchester united.

Gamertag: Muttyhc
Pesrankings: Muttyhc
Team: Inter or Man U
 
andybtsn said:
Its hard to please everyone, I could change it to nation if everyone is in favour. Pesrankings is the only suitable site to use unless there is others? I'm free to go along with anything but I won't bother organising anything if people aren't going to be happy.
I expect most will use a club side in which case I will choose one.
thor said:
I'm not really sure why it has to be done through PESRankings and can't be managed directly on the forum, but I've signed up anyway.
Me neither, I see no reason why it couldn't be done directly off the forum.
dannyjo22 said:
Does it matter if two people have the same team?
Shouldn't matter imo.
Burned_Alive said:
Let me guess, Brazil?

eeshh.....
Yes, I have used Brazil since ISS Pro 98. What's more wrong with me being so used to using Brazil as opposed to someone else being used to Man U, Inter, Barca etc. Brazil haven't always been the best team in the game, and depending on your style of play it's arguable if they even are now. I play a very attacking game so naturally I would favour strong attack over strong defense.
Burned_Alive said:
Wouldnt mind seeing the "elite" teams banned too, they do this on the dvdforums league
I don't see the point in this. Why restrict any teams? All teams in the game should be available to everyone. What's wrong with the idea of it being a level playing field, there can be no fairer way than to allow each player to pick whover they want, whether that is Brazil, France, Barca, Inter or whoever.

Given that everyone else has picked a club side anyway, I will go with the majority.

Gamertag: wedgie20
Pesrankings: wedgie22
Team: probably Barca
 
wedgie22 said:
Yes, I have used Brazil since ISS Pro 98. What's more wrong with me being so used to using Brazil as opposed to someone else being used to Man U, Inter, Barca etc. Brazil haven't always been the best team in the game, and depending on your style of play it's arguable if they even are now. I play a very attacking game so naturally I would favour strong attack over strong defense.

Saying you used them since 98 doesnt give you any credibility, you probably picked them because they were the best team in 98 and saying they havent always been the best team is just a little bit pathetic if you ask me, when clearly they always have been there or thereabouts.

wedgie22 said:
I don't see the point in this. Why restrict any teams? All teams in the game should be available to everyone. What's wrong with the idea of it being a level playing field, there can be no fairer way than to allow each player to pick whover they want, whether that is Brazil, France, Barca, Inter or whoever.

Given that everyone else has picked a club side anyway, I will go with the majority.

Because then it actually is a level playing field, we could all pick barca, inter or brazil and shoot from the half line every time we get the ball, but i actually prefer to play decent football and get inside the box.
 
Burned_Alive said:
Saying you used them since 98 doesnt give you any credibility, you probably picked them because they were the best team in 98 and saying they havent always been the best team is just a little bit pathetic if you ask me, when clearly they always have been there or thereabouts.
Of course they have always been there or thereabouts, they're Brazil! Just so you know, the reason I picked them for ISS Pro 98 was for one simple reason - Ronaldo. He was way faster than anyone else on that version, and in the earlier versions that was pretty much all you needed.

I'm not even sure what you mean when you say I have no credibility? :confused: What credibility should I be seeking? I want to play the game with whoever I choose, I don't try to restrict the teams anyone else can use, everyone is free to use Brazil if they choose to, not just me.
Burned_Alive said:
Because then it actually is a level playing field, we could all pick barca, inter or brazil and shoot from the half line every time we get the ball, but i actually prefer to play decent football and get inside the box.
Forcing people to use teams other than what they themselves feel best suits their style of play is hardly a level playing field is it.
 
Burned_Alive said:
Saying you used them since 98 doesnt give you any credibility, you probably picked them because they were the best team in 98 and saying they havent always been the best team is just a little bit pathetic if you ask me, when clearly they always have been there or thereabouts.



Because then it actually is a level playing field, we could all pick barca, inter or brazil and shoot from the half line every time we get the ball, but i actually prefer to play decent football and get inside the box.

Huh, Having played wedgie a good few times, I can see as he says it suits his style. He plays like newcastle under keegan. Screw the defense, you score 3 I will score 4 ;)

I wouldn't chose brazil, they dont suit me, everytime I play as brazil I struggle. The defense is all over the place. Arsenal are a weakish team, yet I have my best results playing with them.

Its not about picking the best team, its about picking the team and formation that suits your style of play. I can defend well enough, suck up the pressure and hit on a fast counter. So Brazil aren't the team for me.

Yeah people lean on adriano, but only the poor and desperate. We have all been hit with one of his wonder goals, but he aint that fast so marking him aint really an issue. Ronaldo is even easier to take out.

Using the better team or not I've probably only scored a handfull of chances outside the box. I've not conceded many outside either. You feel free to keep on trying that with the better clubs. :p
 
Burned_Alive said:
Obviously not, but its particularly biased in PES6
I take it you struggle against players who use half decent teams then.

Blaming the game for your inability to win is pathetic, that's why you want these restrictions, it gives poor players such as yourself a chance. If your not good enough to win fair, don't moan and blame the game, and don't try and make everyone use poor teams they're not used to just to give yourself a chance.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Huh, Having played wedgie a good few times, I can see as he says it suits his style. He plays like newcastle under keegan. Screw the defense, you score 3 I will score 4 ;)

I wouldn't chose brazil, they dont suit me, everytime I play as brazil I struggle. The defense is all over the place. Arsenal are a weakish team, yet I have my best results playing with them.

Its not about picking the best team, its about picking the team and formation that suits your style of play. I can defend well enough, suck up the pressure and hit on a fast counter. So Brazil aren't the team for me.

Yeah people lean on adriano, but only the poor and desperate. We have all been hit with one of his wonder goals, but he aint that fast so marking him aint really an issue. Ronaldo is even easier to take out.

Using the better team or not I've probably only scored a handfull of chances outside the box. I've not conceded many outside either. You feel free to keep on trying that with the better clubs. :p
I'm sure those who have actually played me will back me up as dannyjo22 has. One of the main problems people have with Brazil and Inter is Adriano, people simply give it straight to him and shoot anywhere in the opposition half. I don't think you will find anyone who plays me who would say that is what I do.
 
I dont get why you cant use any team you like, same arguement as using the AWM in CS - people whine about it; at end of the day its part of the game.

I've beaten people with Barca/Chelsea/ManU/Aresenal/Brazil with Newcastle - albeit there skill about my level
 
wedgie22 said:
I take it you struggle against players who use half decent teams then.

Blaming the game for your inability to win is pathetic, that's why you want these restrictions, it gives poor players such as yourself a chance. If your not good enough to win fair, don't moan and blame the game, and don't try and make everyone use poor teams they're not used to just to give yourself a chance.

Haha, yeah because i dont agree with the overuse and ridiculous ability of the elite teams, im a poor player, of course :rolleyes:

I dont struggle at all against decent teams, and regularly turn people over who use brazil and inter, i havent ever used a team other than Liverpool.

If it was all about formation, you wouldnt need to use brazil, but you like pace right? Reads to me as: i like to boot the ball up field and use my fastest player to outpace them then score an easy goal
 
If you really want pace - its all about Martins

COME-ON-THE-TOON!

/edit

slighty OT - is tehre a way to save a formation/players for multiplayer so i dont need to each time?
 
wedgie22 said:
I'm sure those who have actually played me will back me up as dannyjo22 has. One of the main problems people have with Brazil and Inter is Adriano, people simply give it straight to him and shoot anywhere in the opposition half. I don't think you will find anyone who plays me who would say that is what I do.

Fair enough, ive not played you so i wouldnt like to comment on your ability without playing you ;) but that is the major sticking point for me.
 
McDaniel said:
I dont get why you cant use any team you like, same arguement as using the AWM in CS - people whine about it; at end of the day its part of the game.
I know, people complain as if using Brazil is like using a hack that not everyone has the option of doing.

Only reason I can see of going either club or country is if it is done through pesrankings. If that's the way it goes then I will choose a club team as I have said, otherwise I will use my prefered team and feel not one ounce of shame for doing so.
 
wedgie22 said:
I'm sure those who have actually played me will back me up as dannyjo22 has. One of the main problems people have with Brazil and Inter is Adriano, people simply give it straight to him and shoot anywhere in the opposition half. I don't think you will find anyone who plays me who would say that is what I do.

Sadly your correct, I nearly break my thumbs on the analogue sticks while you build a move up. I'd say with a fair degree of confidence that 80% of the goals you score against me have been from around the 6 yard box.

I'm also certain you have scored more goals with emerton and kaka against me than you have adriano.

Personally i'd take the precision of henry and the pace and power of Eto over adriano.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Personally i'd take the precision of henry and the pace and power of Eto over adriano.
I think I would agree with you. The only reason he even stays in the team is because he does have a decent shot, that's not to say I overuse it, I use it when the situation arises rather than forcing it as many people do.

I would say that anyone who has problems with defending against Adriano, it's their shortcomings, not the games.

It's all irrelevant anyway as it looks like I will be using Barca.
 
Burned_Alive said:
If it was all about formation, you wouldnt need to use brazil, but you like pace right? Reads to me as: i like to boot the ball up field and use my fastest player to outpace them then score an easy goal

But adriano isn't pacey. Ronaldo is but he can only last 45 minutes, mark him tightly and he lasts less. Brazils fastest player is Cicinho 89, followed by robhino,kaka,ronaldo, carlos. Fast players but all heavily flawed in other areas. There are loads of teams faster all over the pitch than brazil. There are also players more skilled with the ball at their feet. Gudjohnsen has some of the best all round marksmen stats in the game, yet people play as barca and leave him on the bench.

I know its boring playing the same teams in ranked brazil v inter etc but they all have big flaws.
 
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