Problem With Upstairs Neighbours Young Child

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Hi,

Just posting to see if anyone has ever been in the same situation or has any further ideas of what we can do to resolve an issue.

Myself and my partner are both 23 and around 18 months ago purchased our first property. It’s only a small ground floor flat of a town house but our first home and something we worked hard for. First 6 months were fine, the upstairs flat is owned by a family in new Zealand and rented out. the tenants were no problem. After around 6 months, a new family moved in with a 2 year old daughter.

For the last year, we are woken at 6AM on our weekends by the child running all over the house upstairs causing horrendous banging. This goes on all day and on the weekend evening until 2-3AM in the morning. Our lights shake, our radiators wobble. The owner has had a few carpets replaced but to no avail, the banging is too much for any quality carpet to make a difference.

We have tried speaking to them, they are Romanian and do not speak very good English so it is difficult but they say it is not their problem, they cannot stop a child from playing. We have spoken to their property managers who seem to have little power in order to do anything. We have spoken to the council who as soon as they heard the fact is was a child, told us they couldn’t do anything regardless of the fact it was during unsociable hours.

I have now asked the owner of the property to serve them notice and offered to pay for any estate agent fees and missing rent in the time it takes to find new tenants who don’t have a young child. My inclination is however that he won’t go along with this.

Does anyone know what else we can do.

Not having the property long means it doesn’t make too much financial sense for us to move. We enquired about buying the upstairs property ourselves but the owner wanted far too much for it.

Very thankful of any ideas or help from anyone!

Thanks
 
Yeah, I get woken up by kids jumping around and banging at 6am too.

Council just won't do anything, no matter how many letters you write. Even the local MP can't do anything.

I should never have had kids....
 
Sadly you are experiencing the joys of having neighbors above you. A friend of mine had the same issue, sounded like the brat upstairs was wearing clogs and running around on the wooden floor.
Just had to grin and bear it until he moved.
 
Yeah, I get woken up by kids jumping around and banging at 6am too.

Council just won't do anything, no matter how many letters you write. Even the local MP can't do anything.

I should never have had kids....

:D

How big is this kid if they're making your place shake like there's an earthquake!?
 
It's a problem with having people living above you.In our first flat, we could hear everything going on in the flat above, from talking normally to them having sex.
Short of moving I doubt you can do much. How high is your ceiling? Maybe you could put some soundproofing in...
 
wow its amazing how people forget they were once children.
Funnily enough, my issue is not with the 2 year old child who has no idea what its doing, it is with the parents who are letting it happen.

When I was a child I didn’t live in an upstairs flat. However if I did, my parents would not have been disrespectful enough to allow to run about all day, late at night, and very early in the morning.

:D

How big is this kid if they're making your place shake like there's an earthquake!?

The kid is very small actually, and quite cute to be fair. But is at the age where running includes no rocking of the feet, just slamming down!
 
While it sounds like the OP is just being dramatic i have a friend who has this exact same problem.

I stayed over a few times and the noise was insane... THUMP BANG CRASH... shouting crying screaming, all hours of the day and the mum just turned up her music! you had to turn your own tv up to silly levels just to concentrate on what you were watching, which seemed to make them upstairs even louder.

The council would do nothing as she was considered "vulnerable" so in the end my friend moved out and rented somewhere else. Seems the law only applies to people who are normal and chavs and scum can do as they wish and rarely get touched.
 
:D

How big is this kid if they're making your place shake like there's an earthquake!?

Modern houses made of cardboard I imagine.

A barking Dog and you could sick the Council on them. But I doubt if they will do anything about a noisy child.

(Dog owners are expected to keep Dogs under control and can face various legal penalties if they fail to do so. Strangely, there does not seem to be a similar legal requirement to keep Children under control)
 
There isnt a lot you will be able to do if the neighbours dont want to help.

Although it may seem like a minor problem it can be a battle of attrition and it wears you down.

You end up asking yourself if its you that is unreasonable? Asking yourself and your significant other if its too loud etc.

Your tolerance crumbles, and eventually ANY noise will drive you crazy.

Sounds like I have been there?? I have.....
 
It's a problem with having people living above you.In our first flat, we could hear everything going on in the flat above, from talking normally to them having sex.
Short of moving I doubt you can do much. How high is your ceiling? Maybe you could put some soundproofing in...

Our ceilings our very high. Sound proofing has been looked as an option. Good quality stuff would be very exspensive, and im still not convinced would entireley work. Not mention look horrible!
 
Yeah, I get woken up by kids jumping around and banging at 6am too.

Council just won't do anything, no matter how many letters you write. Even the local MP can't do anything.

I should never have had kids....

Brilliant!

Maybe use Google translate and try to get a written message to them, keep it simple and see what happens.
 
Ear plugs. I did that in the past when I lived in a flat in London - was good enough to be honest.

You can try sound proofing if you have the height - I did this in my bedroom of an old victorian mansion conversion, ceilings were 17 or so foot high - so plenty of space to create a bit of sound deadening. It more than halved the noise, improved insulation and also reduced the noise I made for the neighbours (music, tv etc...).

Or just get up, 6am isn't that early anyway - and then you can always have a snooze in the day.

Ultimately, the kid is having fun and playing (or at least I'm assuming that). It's one of the disadvantages of flat living unfortunately :(
 
While it sounds like the OP is just being dramatic i have a friend who has this exact same problem.

I stayed over a few times and the noise was insane... THUMP BANG CRASH... shouting crying screaming, all hours of the day and the mum just turned up her music! you had to turn your own tv up to silly levels just to concentrate on what you were watching, which seemed to make them upstairs even louder.

The council would do nothing as she was considered "vulnerable" so in the end my friend moved out and rented somewhere else. Seems the law only applies to people who are normal and chavs and scum can do as they wish and rarely get touched.

Thanks for your comment. I assure everyone were not being dramatic. Hopefully the fact we are asking to pay £550 a month in someone else’s rent until more favourable tenants are found proves this!

Also, this isn’t a new modern property, its an old townhouse, built around 1900 I believe.
 
Well we're in the middle and we can hear the family downstairs with a 5yr old boy and a 2yr old. They slam doors, scream, shout and pull on light cords constabtly. Then we have a couple living upstairs with a big dog and a teenage boy living with them. They drop heavy objects constantly, shouting at the dog, running up and down the communal stairs. Shouting at each other fron outside flats to their top floor balcony.

Can't complain about noise though because our kid cries ans drops things but not to any level they are on.

Tough as they say. Live in flats that's what we have to put up with.
 
Alas it's a problem with living in a flat. When you are in that close a vicinity to other people, it's bound to happen sooner or later, moreso when you consider many flats are rented out.

Soundproof Plasterboard is quite good though, might be an idea.
 
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