Problematic Neighbour

kwerk said:
u sure?

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Hea...pulls-crowds/story-13870781-detail/story.html

Amanda Holland

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Now? Absolutely.
 
Ok few things on this, firstly as she is deaf, I wouldn't read too much into any of her messages / letters as a lot of deaf people can have fairly 'broken English' and to me they look typical of that. Deaf people can also be quiet blunt and direct in their communication.

Depending on level of deafness, I would have thought this should be expected after all how do you expect to learn a language if you cannot hear it (try learning a new language with ear plugs in before criticising.... Snowdog).

Also a lot of deaf people use various forms of sign langauge, probably BSL in UK, BSL does not follow the same structure as English, in fact there's 'words' (or 'signs') whichever perspective you want to look at it from, are often rearranged and a lot of joining words such as and, it etc that kind of word won't be used in BSL and could reflect in written (and spoken English). And also missing 's' etc or other endings on words would in my view be indicative of deafness.

That said nowadays it seems rather a lot of people have a poor standard of English.

As for EvilFranky, such a sensible way to refer to her, I can only assume you're equally unsympathetic to other people with disabilities that lead would lead to obvious difficulties.

As for the noise / bumps issue I assume she is referring to vibrations as deaf people could be sensitive to them.

Also we have one person's side here so just one person's viewpoint, and while I agree it's really an issue for landlords to sort out. Probably amongst each other and shouldn't really be either tennant's problem, I also understand the other person being upset at the hassle / problems caused by the flood on their flat.
 
Thing is Orion21, the problems with the flat were dealt with correctly. Disability or not, this person downstairs just sounds like they're trying to stir the pot a bit out of sheer bitterness that the OP refused to pay out money for something that wasn't his fault.

I mean presumably he's lived there at least a few weeks so unless he's suddenly taken up mass Zumba lessons why has this all started now?

I'm honestly a bit concerned for the OP as the woman downstairs sounds like just the type who would use a disability to make his life hell for him, despite him not having actually done anything wrong. And in those cases, he's going to find it hard to get his voice heard (no pun intended) simply because people are going to automatically side with her.
 
I still think taking a dump on her door step is a good idea, and then use her mail as the toilet roll and push it through the letter box !

All joking aside, it might be worth having a chat with the CAB mate, see what they can suggest in regards to this kind of dispute. Secondly to that is the flat managed bya letting agent or are they both rentedprivatley ? Surely a letting agent should be dealing with all this for you and chasing the landlord ?

When I had issues here in WSM in my flat, we just get onto the letting agent whose just down the road and say "We have a problem" and the very same day it's all sorted, gave them hell after my accident a few weeks ago where I fell down the steps out of my flat as there was no working outside light and dislocated my right arm, was in A&E for 4 hours because of that, was not happy :(
 
Cheers for the replys guys :)

I am waiting on Amanda's reply now, me and my girlfriend has lived in the property for nearly a year now and have had no such complaint whatsoever regarding any ''noises/bumps'' so it very much sounds like she is just sour over the fact she was in wrong over the boiler incident, as the landlord who owns her property has said it was a wear and tear problem and its insured anyway....

I am trying my hardest to keep being constructive and polite in every aspect but she is making it so difficult to get along with her, she has the cheek to complain over bumps or noises during daytime, yet she decides to cook curry's 2/3am every morning which fills my entire flat with the smell, not to mention her doors slamming regularly and her making squelching noises all the time aswell.
 
Firstly cheers to Orion21 for the different perspective, I've never considered things like that before, learn something new everyday!

For the OP...sounds like a bit of a nightmare...if she is going and talking to other people it looks like she may be in for a fight, whether right or wrong.

The only leverage she has is in saying you did certain things at certain times, so defuse that weapon...

Say to Amanda that you are so confident you aren't making the noises she is complaining about that you invite her to record the sounds in the flat daily and make a note of any times she is aware of the bumps.

Can't say fairer than that, if they come back to you and say it was at X time and you were at work then case closed.
 
Tbh we would all be pretty annoyed if the flat above leaked and caused the boiler to cut out. Combine that with her lack of understanding of the written word and you can see perhaps why the letters come across as they do.

I'm sure you've already done this but write a polite letter with the contact details of your landlord / letting agent and say they will sort everything out.

Don't lower yourself to childish retorts, it only makes things worse. If anything buy her a cheap gift (wine / box of chocolates) just to apologise for the inconvenience.

Having ongoing disputes with neighbours isn't fun, so do all you can (within reasonable means) to avoid it.
 
arch said:
A deaf person complaining about noise? Only on OCUK. :D
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And this highlights the potential problem a deaf person can face, there is no reason noise can't be an issue for a deaf person. Although I expect it depends on the level of deafness.

As an example, as I am deaf myself, I can find myself getting headaches or a fed up with noises such as a lot of talking in groups going on. The reason being if a lot of people are talking over each other this can sort of blur and become to me monotonous sounding and I often won't understand it. Imagine if you had a constant background noise or tinnutus type sound, this is probably similiar. Somewhat perversely sounding in this type of situation listening to music (via t-loop with music player, so only I hear it) is actually a lot better. But people in the past have not understood this as they don't understand because it is still 'noise'.

I would also add that I have a good level of hearing (with hearing aids), and was brought up in a hearing family. So I believe my speech and English is of a good standard, but I have mixed and have a lot of deaf friends which would be dependent or use BSL a lot more. I myself am still learning BSL, I supposed I've always been a little apprehensive about it as due to the differences I am concerned it could affect my English, speech and the use of the hearing I have if I started to become dependent on it and use it too much.

Also to be frank I have come across a lot of people who just don't seem to have common sense, and would assume a deaf person can hear just fine and that using telephones, talking in noisy situations and unclearly etc is fine. It wouldn't surprise me if some of these people thought giving a blind person something to read (not Braille :P, for the pedantic out there), rather than orally communicating and then wondering why there is a difficulty.

Who knows she could be stirring it with disability as an excuse, or it could just be that she genuinely believes the OP's flooding has caused the problems. As she doesn't own the house what would she have to gain from making it up as surely the landlord would have to rectify problems anyway and it wouldn't be her expense. All I'm saying is a deaf person is likely to be isolated compared to a hearing person in situations such as these and it may all be a bit daunting and confusing for her, I just wouldn't read too much into it.
 
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Orion21 said:
And this highlights the potential problem a deaf person can face, there is no reason noise can't be an issue for a deaf person. Although I expect it depends on the level of deafness.

As an example, as I am deaf myself, I can find myself getting headaches or a fed up with noises such as a lot of talking in groups going on. The reason being if a lot of people are talking over each other this can sort of blur and become to me monotonous sounding and I often won't understand it. Imagine if you had a constant background noise or tinnutus type sound, this is probably similiar. Somewhat perversely sounding in this type of situation listening to music (via t-loop with music player, so only I hear it) is actually a lot better. But people in the past have not understood this as they don't understand because it is still 'noise'.

I would also add that I have a good level of hearing (with hearing aids), and was brought up in a hearing family. So I believe my speech and English is of a good standard, but I have mixed and have a lot of deaf friends which would be dependent or use BSL a lot more. I myself am still learning BSL, I supposed I've always been a little apprehensive about it as due to the differences I am concerned it could affect my English, speech and the use of the hearing I have if I started to become dependent on it and use it too much.

Also to be frank I have come across a lot of people who just don't seem to have common sense, and would assume a deaf person can hear just fine and that using telephones, talking in noisy situations and unclearly etc is fine. It wouldn't surprise me if some of these people thought giving a blind person something to read (not Braille :P, for the pedantic out there), rather than orally communicating and then wondering why there is a difficulty.

Who knows she could be stirring it with disability as an excuse, or it could just be that she genuinely believes the OP's flooding has caused the problems. As she doesn't own the house what would she have to gain from making it up as surely the landlord would have to rectify problems anyway and it wouldn't be her expense. All I'm saying is a deaf person is likely to be isolated compared to a hearing person in situations such as these and it may all be a bit daunting and confusing for her, I just wouldn't read too much into it.
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were you born deaf?
 
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