Problems at work...what do I do now?
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Interesting observation...can you elaborate for me? Genuinely interested in your thoughts
Ah Dimple...how I wish I had...and I wonder what sort of constructive advice I would have got
You make him out to be a bit of a lech.
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As was said, if you have sent that letter - God help you. And I'm not going to cut you any slack here for being female either - because modern companies won't either.
I can guarentee 99% of HR staff will be laughing their socks off at that and probably passing it around.
Believe me, I'm not saying this to be hateful in any way - but it just comes across as another whiny employee who has "issues" and shouldn't be working for a professional company.
Working in this day and age is tough for everyone. Most people I know don't really "get-on" with their managers/bosses and I think most people I know think they could do a better job than most of their managers. But at the end of the day - you just knuckle down and get on with it - even if it means spending your day doing fake smiles, small-talk etc.
Most importantly, if there really are issues with your manager - and it's not just you that have seen them - you make people aware of the issues and don't give them the chance to feel "victimised" in any way. You address the issues individually and have clear examples of what they are and when they occoured - then you work on ways to resolve them.
You definitely don't start bringing up a whole list of side issues that are irrelevant to your grievance - and you especially don't tell them that you are actively seeking a new job. And you definitely don't then ask for a pay rise.......
They have stated you will possibly be up for a disciplinary if your attitude doesn't improve - a day later you have the audacity to tell them you aren't getting paid enough and you are better than everyone else in the dept. at your job ?..... What was that about ?
I'm sorry - but It just comes across as you being over-emotional & irrational and possibly a liability to the team.
I can guarentee 99% of HR staff will be laughing their socks off at that and probably passing it around.
Believe me, I'm not saying this to be hateful in any way - but it just comes across as another whiny employee who has "issues" and shouldn't be working for a professional company.
Working in this day and age is tough for everyone. Most people I know don't really "get-on" with their managers/bosses and I think most people I know think they could do a better job than most of their managers. But at the end of the day - you just knuckle down and get on with it - even if it means spending your day doing fake smiles, small-talk etc.
Most importantly, if there really are issues with your manager - and it's not just you that have seen them - you make people aware of the issues and don't give them the chance to feel "victimised" in any way. You address the issues individually and have clear examples of what they are and when they occoured - then you work on ways to resolve them.
You definitely don't start bringing up a whole list of side issues that are irrelevant to your grievance - and you especially don't tell them that you are actively seeking a new job. And you definitely don't then ask for a pay rise.......
They have stated you will possibly be up for a disciplinary if your attitude doesn't improve - a day later you have the audacity to tell them you aren't getting paid enough and you are better than everyone else in the dept. at your job ?..... What was that about ?
I'm sorry - but It just comes across as you being over-emotional & irrational and possibly a liability to the team.
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Be careful with this one. I tried it once and got a bit confused - I started imagining my supervisor with a HUGE willy by mistake. Next thing I know I was being terminated for "inappropriate sexual advances"
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I didn't get that from her post
There are some great wordsmiths on this forum (I'm not one of them) who would have fine detailed that email to perfection.
It's not too late. It is always sensible to draft certain types of emails then leave them overnight before re-reading and deciding whether or not to send. At this point, it may well be worth thinking exactly what you want to say and re-drafting an email in rather more professional language together with an apology for the previous missive.
Unfortunately most posts on here regarding people's problems end in them being abused.
There are a lot of people on here who act all "cool" and "hard" but in real life are just lonely and unhappy. Their way of making themselves feel better is to pick on the vulnerable people who ask for advice on their problems.
I think some people in here have spent too much time on Ebaums and actually think that consistently posting like hormonal retarded pubescent American kids is actually something to aspire to.
Other than that it's a great forum
Couldn't agree more. People make mistakes and OP has realised that, but wow, talk about pack mentality / hopping on the bandwagon.
Yes this is GD and most come here for a bit of light-hearted banter, that's no reason to leave any social skills you have at the door.
Surprised there wasn't many "dur here come the white knights becuz it's a gurl, lol" posts though
.id say the OP is in serious danger of losing his/her job now.
regardless if you dont like someone, just man up and get on with it or leave.
the situation that has now occured here will end up very badly for you, and in this job market its the last thing you want to is unemployment.
regardless if you dont like someone, just man up and get on with it or leave.
the situation that has now occured here will end up very badly for you, and in this job market its the last thing you want to is unemployment.
Couldn't agree more. People make mistakes and OP has realised that, but wow, talk about pack mentality / hopping on the bandwagon.
Yes this is GD and most come here for a bit of light-hearted banter, that's no reason to leave any social skills you have at the door.
Surprised there wasn't many "dur here come the white knights becuz it's a gurl, lol" posts though
It's not really the mistake though (as hilarious as that is), it's the general attitude of:
"I don't like this persons personality, so I'll rant and rave about it like a petulant child"
That is what has irked people, and rightly so.
You seem like ** Personal attacks will not be tolerated ** a very exaggerated opinion of your own self worth. I'd hate to work along side someone with your odious personality traits and I'd flat out loathe to try and manage your fragile ego.
Go work somewhere else, there people at your current job have been punished enough.
Go work somewhere else, there people at your current job have been punished enough.
Well that muddies the water quite a bit.
The plot thickens...
Hope you do well in finding a new job and putting all this behind you.
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***** , never their fault, constant streams of excuses to validate their failings, I'd hazard a guess that this problem has occured with them beofre and that wasn't their fault either.
OP seems to grossy over estimate their worth to a company and doesn't seem to realise they could be replaced overnight without and major hassle, because they believe they're indispensible or not to blame they throw their toys out of the pram and try to temper tantrum their way out of the situation.
OP will not be working with the same company in 6 months, the letter sent to HR may as well have been a letter of resignation and the fact they are proud of penning such a misguided letter sums them up nicely.
***** , never their fault, constant streams of excuses to validate their failings, I'd hazard a guess that this problem has occured with them beofre and that wasn't their fault either.
OP seems to grossy over estimate their worth to a company and doesn't seem to realise they could be replaced overnight without and major hassle, because they believe they're indispensible or not to blame they throw their toys out of the pram and try to temper tantrum their way out of the situation.
OP will not be working with the same company in 6 months, the letter sent to HR may as well have been a letter of resignation and the fact they are proud of penning such a misguided letter sums them up nicely.
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He is a man...you are a woman...
Just say he touched you up...
YES I went there
"He touched me in my no-no place."
Charming trollolololol.I really do not follow all the "you may as well have sent a letter of resignation" comments. This situation, whilst more than a little awkward, is far from irrecoverable. Indeed, maneuvering staff towards an exit after 5 years' service is far more complicated than might be expected.
+1
That email is positively the worst thing you could've sent, and I've sent some howlers in my time that I've regretted later.
Unless you're in a position of some authority or indispensability you can't send emails like that, and even when you are you're marking your own card as far as career progression goes.
This "Jim" guy is a manager for a reason. That reason may or may not be "right" or "fair" in your eyes but it's irrelevant because it's not your decision to make. I agree with Fox's opening post (which doesn't appear to have been answered) that your problems with your boss sound entirely emotional (irrational? - "his voice", etc) and as such I'm not at all surprised that he felt he had to escalate it to HR if you were appearing to be obstinate or obstructive to a professional working environment.
I take it you've seen Slim Jim?