Project: THE CURSED BUILD

Personally I would prefer those fans to be
Intaking cool air from outside
That's one disadvantage with hardline tubing
Not as easy to change stuff
The amount you're spending probably get a radiator just in case
Maybe test both methods first with soft Tubing
For some of the loop?
Making it easier to add or remove that radiator as required
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Personally I would prefer those fans to be
Intaking cool air from outside
That's one disadvantage with hardline tubing
Not as easy to change stuff
The amount you're spending probably get a radiator just in case
Maybe test both methods first with soft Tubing
For some of the loop?
Making it easier to add or remove that radiator as required
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That's probably sensible - will undoubtedly be lower when gaming, but with 350w for the 3080ti and around 230w max from CPU potentially, the more cooling the better, especially if there's space to easily add the 360. Or see what GPU temps/CPU boost frequency is like with the 2x360 radiators if it's not going to take hours to redo the loop to add in another 360 if needed?
 
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I think the best way to decide is that you know what was in there previously and how well the loop coped with that. How much more heat are you putting in and do you think you have enough headroom for it given the previous performance and at the fan volume levels you'd be happy with?
I just set up an i7-6700k (overclocked to 4.4GHz turbo on all cores) and a 980TI with two 360 rads and it's not struggling in the slightest - I think the loop hit 25°C under benchmarking with the fans at around half speed. Older kit and lower TDPs though.
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
That's probably sensible - will undoubtedly be lower when gaming, but with 350w for the 3080ti and around 230w max from CPU potentially, the more cooling the better, especially if there's space to easily add the 360. Or see what GPU temps/CPU boost frequency is like with the 2x360 radiators if it's not going to take hours to redo the loop to add in another 360 if needed?
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Should also mention
Thats based partly on vidars experience with his 9900k
And same pc case
Before he added intake fans there
His temperatures were a lot higher than expected
With 2 x 360mm radiator
The addition of the intake fans made a big difference

But yeah being able to test both would be ideal of course
Preferably without having to take apart a hard line loop
 
I mean I've got enough soft fittings I could comfortably test both configs but it's more work than I'm looking to do. My old system performed fairly well with two rads though one was skinny up top. My 9900k is a toasty boy when overclocked and the addition of side intakes and rear exhaust helped a lot, but that was just a cpu loop.

With reported temps of 95c under load on the 7950x and the extra heat from the gpu being added to the loop I'm just a touch concerned.

If I had anywhere to put one I'd include a massive external radiator.
 
Its the worst time now to see whether or not 2 rads will be enough due to the colder part of the year. Summer is when the real test happens. My setup with 2 360 rads struggled and water temps reached over 40C in the summer and that's with undervolting. The PC was no more silent than a fan cooled one too due to the speed the fans needed to run. I was thinking about the 3rd Rad option, but went with an external MO-RA3 instead. I would definitely go for a 3rd rad. That way if temps are nice and stable you can lower fan speed and go for an even quieter fan profile.
If budget allows, id sell your EK distroplate and buy the EK v2 front distroplate with Matrix support, which will make routing a 3rd rad much easier.
 
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@OC2000 oh he's already seen it
The v2 distro Trust me on that one lol

If adding 3rd radiator
I would be tempted to flip the rear exhaust fan
So you at least have some cooler air coming in
That's not going through a radiator
So intake bottom,intake side,intake rear not through a radiator
And exhaust top

Or instead of side radiator
Can you fit in a really thick 120mm radiator at the rear?

This is where soft Tubing has an advantage
I use quick disconnects
So could easily add and remove that 3rd radiator
To be able to compare the 2 options

Might also be some options
To limit power
As opposed to undervolting ?
Since the last small amount of performance
Will likely come at a disproportionate amount of power required
Not ideal but if you lose say 10% of performance
But take say 30% less power it may be a worthwhile trade off

All speculation of course
Ideally you want to find someone with same or as close as
Set up you're going to use
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
That's his early Xmas present to himself lol
Says on first page his daughter is getting
His 9900k etc
Still a great first pc for her if you see the specs on page 1
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Oh yeah i know his first spec very well, we use to talk a lot on whatsapp but i lost touch (my fault!) being abit overwhelmed with work and all. That is some upgrade though, will be night and day! It was quite a change going from a 9900k to a 12700k for myself personally.
 
Jay85 said:
Oh yeah i know his first spec very well, we use to talk a lot on whatsapp but i lost touch (my fault!) being abit overwhelmed with work and all. That is some upgrade though, will be night and day! It was quite a change going from a 9900k to a 12700k for myself personally.
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He loves his daughter
But fatherly love has its limits lol
And a 7950x definitely goes beyond the limit lol
You should take some time and reconnect with him
He's a nice guy (for a scouser lol)
 
Jay85 said:
Oh yeah i know his first spec very well, we use to talk a lot on whatsapp but i lost touch (my fault!) being abit overwhelmed with work and all. That is some upgrade though, will be night and day! It was quite a change going from a 9900k to a 12700k for myself personally.
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Amaze balls, you're alive! Shoot me a WhatsApp any time mate. I'm always about!

I'm really looking forward to getting ip and running now but I've gone and hit a snag I wasn't expecting!

Behold...

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No idea how the hell this happened but just noticed it when I was about to start flushing my rads! Doh...

Oh well, looks like I've got another expense.

And yes I love my daughter but not to the tune of a 7950x and 3080ti lol
 
I'm going to rename this project to "The Cursed Build" as everything that can go wrong with it, has gone wrong with it and it's not over yet!

First off, I discovered the pain that is EKWB Matrix 7 compatibility. None of my old radiators or fittings lined up with the 2nd gen front distro plate. Having already sold my first gen distro and shipped it off I was feeling mighty stupid, I'd never heard of Matrix 7 so that's on me for not doing my due diligence.

Then came an eternity of waiting for out of stock items, I mean over 4 months, namely the Quantum Surface S360 but several fittings also.

Finally, within the past few days everything arrived, and I got to work! I'd spoken with EKWB Customer services to get a list of compatible fittings and rads that I'd need for my build. They where very helpful, noting the case, distro, motherboard, block etc and gave me a very specific list.

THE LIST WAS ******* WRONG!!!

They had me order fittings I don't need, not order enough of fittings I did need but chief issue being that the Quantum Surface P360 for the top they specifically recommended for my case and motherboard doesn't bloody fit! So now I need to go back and order another Quantum Surface S360, if I can find one in stock anywhere and also work out exactly what fittings I'll need for it. Also got a ton of stuff to return!

Oh and I also managed to yank a cable and bend some rgb header pins, that took a lot of finagling to get right.

I swear to god, if I get this blasted thing fully built and there's any more issues I'm going to set fire to it!

Well here's some pictures, forgive the mess I don't have a lot of space to work

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Since I bought the v1 distro from someone
Not pointing any fingers lol
And I bought quantum Surface rads which didn't line up
I feel your pain mate
My build was a nightmare too

Why won't the 44mm work at the top?
It does on the 011d evo with push fittings
And your 30mm bottom rad looks like it lines up
 
@Mcnumpty2323 The P360 impacts the heatsink and chassis where the top corner of the I/O shield goes. It's only a few mm that's the issue but it also just means that the push fittings cannot slide in, even with lube.
 
Need the 30mm in the bottom as the 44mm means the vertical mount has to sit higher and interferes with the CPU block.
 
The EK P360 will fit in with the push fittings, but you’ll need to put the fans on after. You will need to push the fans against the 8pin connects to get it screwed in and won’t be able to put a screw in the left corner one.
It is possible, not easy, but doable. Check my build last pic out.

That Matrix 7 has indeed caused nothing but challenges and a significant extra cost buying compatible parts!
 
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