ps3 or not?

I have to agree with Edz, the games due out on PS3 look a lot more interesting to me whereas theres nothing which really interests me in future 360 releases - this is one of the reasons I got rid of my 360 tbh.
 
NokkonWud said:
I honestly can't see how people are saying stuff like that Stellios. I look at the lineup of future Xbox360 games (and their probably sequels :rolleyes: ) and I can't help but think gaming has never looked stronger.

Yes, theres plenty out but the majority are multi console releases. Obviously im only looking at whats coming out over the next 6-8 months as anything further is still a bit vague.
 
NokkonWud said:
I honestly can't see how people are saying stuff like that Stellios. I look at the lineup of future Xbox360 games (and their probably sequels :rolleyes: ) and I can't help but think gaming has never looked stronger.

I agree with Stelios though, as you may have noticed in the pre order thread :p
 
Edz said:
Now this is where we beg to differ, because I fail to see any games similar to Motorstorm, F1 or Resistance available on a next gen console, and if there are they arn't IMO as good.
Whilst the concept of Motorstorm is great, it's perfectly clear the game wasn't completed as we have been informed extra modes etc... will be added over time. It was rushed out for release and only selling half a game at £40 was criminal.

Resistance is your typical generic FPS, I honestly can't think of a more generic shooter. Poor weapons, poor enemies, uninspiring landscapes and environments (until near the end). It has a good deathmatch multiplayer mode, but other than that it's one of the most dull FPS' I've played in the last 10 years.

To say there are no similarities to F1 is obviously true, however Forza2 is a real life track racing game which offers more variation in cars and modification, depth and online modes. F1 is a good game and I do enjoy it, but it's not fantastic other than the fact it's Formula 1. If it weren't F1 with the licenses etc.. it would be a dull racing game.

I'll agree on Sigma, but for me and others who haven't played the original it really doesn't matter if it was released before.

Edz said:
As for future releases, all I see coming to the 360 is FPS & RPG's (lots of them), and a much more diverse lineup for the PS3 (HS, Lair, LBP, R&C). Whether these games will be any good is another matter but atm we can say the same about the 360 future releases so we'll have to wait and see :)
Whilst there are too many FPS' coming out for my likings, there are other genre's too. However, for me at least, there is just no games of any quality out solely for the Playstation3 and that's a disgrace.
 
JUMPURS said:
I agree with Stelios though, as you may have noticed in the pre order thread :p
I still don't see it. I've looked at all of the PS3's future releases and whilst there are some standouts the majority just look very average. The only reason Sony fans are buying them is because they look slightly better than the poor selection they have now and because, despite how rubbish they might be, they aren't on the other consoles.

Obviously R&C, J&D etc.. will be good titles, but Lair just looks poor. Uncharted looks more than average visually etc..

I am still hoping Uncharted will be good, but for now it looks like a more modern Dragons Lair with nice scripted, timed jumps. A cross between that and the 3D Broken Swords.
 
Back to the OP's question...

I don't think you can make a bad decision, I have both the 360/HD-DVD and PS3, and as far as HD Films go, both are great

If you fancy a change, then the PS3 will be fine, however, just spending £99 on a HD-DVD drive (Wait a week or so, it may come with 5 HD-DVD's) would be my choice, then wait until next year and when the PS3 is cheap enough you can decide whether to add it to your stable, or swap..
 
See but i look at the 360 list and think, oo another RPG or FPS.
But see things like R&C, heavenly Nariko, i mean sword, MGS4, Uncharted (Which i think looks great), EchoChrome, LBP (though not till summer next year), Eye of juddgement (which could be interesting in away) added to the MF games we all know about, plus it has the shooters Haze and UT3 this year and warhawk. It all just seems so nice to me :)
But i look at the 360 and i am like, BioShock, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, PGR4 and Halo 3.
I always felt the PS2 had a far greater sweep of genres than the xbox did, and i think the PS3 will be the same.

Just all a matter tastes really :)
 
lol, don't get me started on Warhawk! ;).

Whilst I will get loads of PS3 games (I'm just looking forward to buying any tbh) I lack any form of confidence in the quality of them. Those that fun fine aren't great, those that are good games run poorly. It's not a great sign.
 
Why couldn't the OP play Bioshock, Halo 3 and Mass Effect on his 360, and then get a PS3 around christmas? Between now and christmas the PS3 has very little coming out. In a discussion about what he should do now what's the point in listing a load of PS3 games which are 6-9 months off?

If he gets a PS3 now he will be bored now and for the rest of the year. Also when judging the current selection of PS3 games objectively I like to use the Gamespot user review average scores, which means the rating is from a large selection of real people, and by that measure there's hardly anything that gets over 85%, just Ninja Gaiden Sigma and a few cross platform releases like Oblivion/Vegas which the OP could play on his 360.

I started a thread recently asking if I should get a PS3 now, and most of the people who replied who owned PS3s said no.
 
NokkonWud said:
lol, don't get me started on Warhawk! ;).

Whilst I will get loads of PS3 games (I'm just looking forward to buying any tbh) I lack any form of confidence in the quality of them. Those that fun fine aren't great, those that are good games run poorly. It's not a great sign.
You really strike me as being a "the glass is half empty" kind of guy when it comes to the PS3 and I don't think that anything other than actually having good games in your hands ready to play will turn your opinion any other way - or will it?
 
Not at all, I'm optimistic about all the consoles, why else would I buy all of them? :p

The fact is, there is a lot of crap coming on all consoles but in terms of console exclusives the PS3 seems to have the worst of the upcoming games. I view all games from a design POV and as JUMPURS (I think) said in the past, doing so will almost certainly affect the way I see games to general members of the public. I have already accepted that maybe what I see as sloppy design on Resistance is why I see it in such a poor light.

I like to be blown away, but it's very difficult to do so and so far there isn't really anything exclusive to the PS3 that's doing so. That's not to say that games coming out on the PS3 aren't blowing me away, they just generally seem to be multiplatform such as:

Stranglehold:
The environments are interesting, offering new ways to do things, however this may leave the game feeling shallow and empty (much how Half-Life 2 was for me on the PC), however I can't help but be impressed at the level of detail from the normal mapping and specular mapping in a destructable environment.

Army of Two:
A very impressive take on Co-Op combat, taking it a stage further than what we have seen from Vegas and Gears of War. The graphics are certainly impressive with some fantastic character models

Assassins Creed:
Very delicately designed settings, it's the little features like door scrolls or carved archways that give it that level of believability. The characters animation is very impressive, taking Prince of Persia another step.

It's these little things that make something more believable and the things I notice. Having those things be familiar to what it is I do allow me to know what goes into it from the research through to the development and implementation, that's why some games appear hollow to me (Resistance just happens to be the perfect example) and there are a lot coming out that keep me happy, however as I said, it would appear most of these are gonna be multiformat. With them being Multiformat it's likely I'll get them on the Xbox360 for 2 reasons, firstly the implementation of easily being able to play with, or against friends across a range of new games rather than the more complex method implemented (currently) on the Playstation3. Secondly is the vastly superior (in my opinion, obviously) gamepad which is a better size, better placed sticks and buttons, better weighted and has rumble.
If they were to only be on the Playstation 3 I would gladly get them on that.

You seem to think that I am anti-Sony or something when I am not, I've stated many times that the console itself is better than the Xbox360 both in it's design and in it's usage (such as card readers, 4x USB, Blu-Ray) and I also mentioned that I prefer Sony's online offering because they provide dedicated servers which will always be superior to Microsofts P2P excuse for Multiplayer gaming.

I am also looking forwards to several Playstation 3 games, notably Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter and Haze. I refuse to be blinkered by the hype around Gran Turismo 5 like some people purely because what I have seen doesn't impress me (other than the cars) and that I felt GT:HD was a monstrosity purely because it's the slowest racing game I can ever remember playing. I also won't be taken in by MGS4 because I felt MGS2 was the epitomy of overhype and under-deliver. From the visuals I have seen I am also left uninspired due to it's very limited pallette choice for colours, whilst I am under the belief that games DO need this (Gears of War utilised this brilliantly, as did The Darkness) but sepia with everything just doesn't do it for me - again this seems to be the case with Killzone 2 (except with grey) which are generally a sign of a lack of power - the case of the Playstation 2 with MGS2 and Killzone as prime examples.

However I have never stated that I won't be buying either of these games, because as a video game lover I feel I must play them because whilst I may not be impressed from what I see or hear, I may be impressed by what I play. This is where people get mistaken, they get pulled in by the hype, the prime example being Lair, a game which I thought not only sounded poor, but looked poor, but people with Playstation3's were hyping the hell out of it in the hope they would finally have a good PS3 exclusive, this is the case with most games unfortunately, however some promise to deliver more than others.

I am not a glass half-empty person regarding games at all, infact I would say I see both sides of the coin, I am just as likely to praise something when it deserves is (more so infact) than I am to criticise something, which I only ever do when it's deservedly so.
 
That's fair enough but how can you rate a game, i.e. Lair when none of us have played it yet?

Sounds to me like your more interested in how a game looks over how it plays!!

Take for instance Warhawk, looks so so yet the beta testers praised it, maybe the game is better to play than it looks?
 
fish99 said:
Why couldn't the OP play Bioshock, Halo 3 and Mass Effect on his 360, and then get a PS3 around christmas? Between now and christmas the PS3 has very little coming out. In a discussion about what he should do now what's the point in listing a load of PS3 games which are 6-9 months off?

If he gets a PS3 now he will be bored now and for the rest of the year. Also when judging the current selection of PS3 games objectively I like to use the Gamespot user review average scores, which means the rating is from a large selection of real people, and by that measure there's hardly anything that gets over 85%, just Ninja Gaiden Sigma and a few cross platform releases like Oblivion/Vegas which the OP could play on his 360.

I started a thread recently asking if I should get a PS3 now, and most of the people who replied who owned PS3s said no.

a) Most of the PS3 games mentioed in this thread are due pre-christmas which is only 5 months away...
b) The OP wanted the movies as well as the games, and tbh Blu-ray appears to be the preffered format atm.
c) Your post stated you were mainly interested in gaming hence why everyone said stick with the 360 for now.
 
Edz said:
That's fair enough but how can you rate a game, i.e. Lair when none of us have played it yet?

Sounds to me like your more interested in how a game looks over how it plays!!

Take for instance Warhawk, looks so so yet the beta testers praised it, maybe the game is better to play than it looks?

I haven't heard a bad word about Warhawk. I am really looking forward to it tbh, and i am not a big online gamer, but i loved BF2 on my xbox and i think Warhawk will be very good.

Also iirc ign seemed to preffer the Warhawk beta over the Halo 3 beta, purely because it was a bit refreshing as they felt Halo 3 was a bit 'been there done that'.

Lair, meh i will wait till that one is out, i aint a big fan of dragons etc.
 
I've spent many hours on warhawk, its great. Graphics are not hitting any new bars but the gameplay won me over. Swoooping into ground combat with the warhawks is quite impressive with the amount of things going on in this game.
 
NokkonWud said:
Whilst the concept of Motorstorm is great, it's perfectly clear the game wasn't completed as we have been informed extra modes etc... will be added over time. It was rushed out for release and only selling half a game at £40 was criminal.

What like Gears of War?

NokkonWud said:
Resistance is your typical generic FPS, I honestly can't think of a more generic shooter. Poor weapons, poor enemies, uninspiring landscapes and environments (until near the end). It has a good deathmatch multiplayer mode, but other than that it's one of the most dull FPS' I've played in the last 10 years.

Harsh, very harsh.. Admittedly it's not great but it does have a good length in SP, better than average story, Offline CO-OP and 40 player virtually lag free MP. It may not be great but it certainly isn't bad! (in fact can't think of a 360 exclusive FPS that's better!!!)


NokkonWud said:
To say there are no similarities to F1 is obviously true, however Forza2 is a real life track racing game which offers more variation in cars and modification, depth and online modes. F1 is a good game and I do enjoy it, but it's not fantastic other than the fact it's Formula 1. If it weren't F1 with the licenses etc.. it would be a dull racing game.

I'll agree on Sigma, but for me and others who haven't played the original it really doesn't matter if it was released before.

Ok fair enough, I'll give you that one...

NokkonWud said:
Whilst there are too many FPS' coming out for my likings, there are other genre's too..

Yes RPG's, RPG's & more RPG's, oh and PGR4 :)

NokkonWud said:
However, for me at least, there is just no games of any quality out solely for the Playstation3 and that's a disgrace.

Again that is a matter of opinion, IMO there's a couple out now, and plenty coming. Heavenly Sword definately being up there near the top.
 
Just picked up a ps3 with 5 games for £350 on the marketplace here and awaiting its arrival! Can't wait tbh... I don't have a 360, but the games that would appeal to most on it are FPSs and tbh, when I want to play FPS games, I use my PC with my trusty mouse and keyboard.

I will probably try a few of the console only FPS games naturally, but then again i've used the playstation controllers for years now and thats what i'm used to. I tried out a 360 a while back and while it did feel satisfyingly sturdy, I didn't take to the controls as naturally as I do to the playstation's efforts.

Anyway, main games i'm looking forward to are Guitar Hero 3, Rock Band, Assassin's Creed, GTA4, Burnout Paradise, GT5 and The Force Unleashed (yeah I know it's ages away).
 
Edz said:
c) Your post stated you were mainly interested in gaming hence why everyone said stick with the 360 for now.
Says it all really. Plus since you keep bringing up GoW, check out the GoW average user review score and average critic review score on Gamespot. If you don't like it that's fair enough but most people who played it thought it was pretty damn good.

Also from what I can see the big PS3 games won't be arriving till next year.
 
Joebob said:
You really strike me as being a "the glass is half empty" kind of guy when it comes to the PS3 and I don't think that anything other than actually having good games in your hands ready to play will turn your opinion any other way - or will it?

I was the same and Heavenly Sword has gave me a lot more confidence in the future of the PS3, but right now Nokkon is totally right. Whatever good games is on the PS3 run like ass, and whatever original stuff it has, sucks. That's pretty much the gist of the first year of the PS3. Sony couldn't be in a tigher bind than they already are right now.
 
KNiVES said:
I was the same and Heavenly Sword has gave me a lot more confidence in the future of the PS3, but right now Nokkon is totally right. Whatever good games is on the PS3 run like ass, and whatever original stuff it has, sucks. That's pretty much the gist of the first year of the PS3. Sony couldn't be in a tigher bind than they already are right now.


i concur, but i am optimistic about the future, if they can get home right and have enough games using it well, then it'll provide a nice reason to get it as well as a 360.
 
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