Q-tec

hp7909 · 20 Jul 2006 at 12:09

Duke said:
I would never trust an El Cheapo PSU in a reasonable system.

...make that in ANY system. For me its down to how they are made & how they work! Read somewhere that, what they draw from the mains to produce xxxW's is ridiculous (/goes off to search said article) :cool:

AndyOcUK · 20 Jul 2006 at 12:47

Exactly - like I said, you wouldn't enter a grand prix in a go kart.

Dutch Guy · 20 Jul 2006 at 13:14

From a review site I cannot link to:

QTec's Triple Fan 650W is clearly a joke power supply. From the triplet of cooling fans that battle against each other to cool very little, to the supposed ratings that don't even add up to 650W, finishing with the massive failure for the PSU to get anywhere near its rated output. At 350W the outputs started to fluctuate rapidly before settling down.

By 450W, efficiency was dropping like a stone, input power increasing at a very rapid rate. At 50% efficiency and 900W of input power with the PSU making a horrible screeching sound, PD and I stood well back and recorded its demise on video. At 1100W of input power (1.1 kilowatts), it popped with a massive bang, the internal fuse letting go in impressive style.

For its rediculously low cost, the QTec Triple Fan 650W can only be described as a clown's supply. Buy at your own peril and don't say we didn't warn you. The worst supply on test by quite some margin and a complete misadvertisement of capabilities, suckering people into a poor purchase.

at the text in bold

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jul 2006 at 13:34

to be honest overclockers is a company which its main goal is to make money, if somebody wants to buy a q-tec they should be allowed to, my q-tec in me el cheapo system has been running fine for 8 months now and so have both my enermax's in my uber rigs, everybody has the choice nobody is forcing you to buy it, and as Andy stated if somebody tries to buy an uber rig with a q-tec supply they are advised not to, what can i say that is great customer support, do you think any other company would do the same thing?

Efour · 20 Jul 2006 at 13:36

q-tec thread :rolleyes:

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jul 2006 at 14:00

Efour2 said:
q-tec thread

yes i know but a lot of people are flaming OCUK for selling q-tec

Andy Pandy · 20 Jul 2006 at 14:57

my qtec and i get along fine. I didnt get the cheap qtec i got the expensive q tec

. Cant fault it

AndyOcUK · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:03

Psycho Sonny said:
to be honest overclockers is a company which its main goal is to make money, if somebody wants to buy a q-tec they should be allowed to, my q-tec in me el cheapo system has been running fine for 8 months now and so have both my enermax's in my uber rigs, everybody has the choice nobody is forcing you to buy it, and as Andy stated if somebody tries to buy an uber rig with a q-tec supply they are advised not to, what can i say that is great customer support, do you think any other company would do the same thing?

Thankyou... at last somebody willing to attempt to understand the other side of the argument.

Psycho Sonny here has a Q-tec and a very low spec (no offence) system and he's aware that as a budget system, it only requires a budget power supply. NO-ONE IS FORCING ANYONE to buy these PSU's and we FREQUENTLY REFUSE to sell them to people with high end rigs who are not that clued up.

This is about the 10th time I've tried to explain this to you all in a dignified, polite and professional manner but Psycho Sonny seems to be the only one listening or even attemting to understand. Consequently I have no choice but to put it this way.....

If you think they are "crap". DON'T BUY one. Please stop speculating and criticising our policies and stocks and sales motives which you clearly, despite me explaining several times, want to know nothing about.

You've all found the reviews easily as you've ranted about nothing else here so what makes you think other people won't?

Regards

AndyOcUK
OcUK Tech :confused:

t31os · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:06

They may run alright for someone, they just have a higher chance of killing other hardware if they blow.

Q-tecs may be fine for lower end systems, but you can't honesty expect to believe everyone person that purchases components knows why its cheap, thats just a guess at best to assume everyone is doing it.

You run the risk of lost hardware if a QTEC does blow, and the reviewers have shown what can happen.

Personally i believe if you care for your customers you wouldnt even stock an item that runs the risk of potentially destroying someones hardware, regardless of wether you offer the support, not everyone is a bright spark. I'll admit all PSU's will always have that risk, its just much higher with a Qtec.

Ironicly though, there's one in the downstairs PC (not mine, the mothers), and its fine (wasnt my choice of PSU, but she hates me touching her PC). I know who she'll come running to if it blows up though.

EDIT: I will add though, i base my opinion on what i know, if the OCUK guys trust these are ok PSU's to use, that is there decision, i'm not criticising, just sharing opinion.

AndyOcUK · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:18

oh for the love of all that is holy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They DON'T have a risk of blowing anything IF they are suitably matched with low power hardware.

I give up.

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:18

AndyOcUK said:
Thankyou... at last somebody willing to attempt to understand the other side of the argument.

Psycho Sonny here has a Q-tec and a very low spec (no offence) system and he's aware that as a budget system, it only requires a budget power supply. NO-ONE IS FORCING ANYONE to buy these PSU's and we FREQUENTLY REFUSE to sell them to people with high end rigs who are not that clued up.Regards

AndyOcUK
OcUK Tech

hey ill have u know i have high spec systems too x2 4400 and x2 4800 but they both have enermax's powering them noisetakers to be exact, so budget power supplies go well with budget systems and high spec systems obviously require high quality psu's, your doing a great job Andy (i expect my free conroe to arrive soon)

killer_uk · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:19

AndyOcUK said:
oh for the love of all that is holy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They DON'T have a risk of blowing anything IF they are suitably matched with low power hardware.

I give up.

Leave them to it. They obviously don't grasp the idea of what a business is.

AndyOcUK · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:30

Thanks Killer and, hey Psycho, LMAO!!!!

if i could, i'd make it law that everyone should have conroes free of charge. Maybe with a free Q-Tec?? lol

Andy Pandy · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:34

cant you make it other way round

squiffy · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:35

AndyOcUK said:
oh for the love of all that is holy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They DON'T have a risk of blowing anything IF they are suitably matched with low power hardware.

I give up.

Will OC UK accept items that have been damaged by a Qtec taking out other parts?

And your comment that people assume a £20 PSU as safe/good is wrong, most people buy the cheapest and expect them to be fine. They don't understand why a PSU is £100, and think a £20 will be the same. It's like getting someone to understand why Celerons are poo, and Pentium 4's are faster. They both do the same job, Celerons are cheaper therefore "better"

tbh I think OC UK should remove the Qtec's, are have a disclaimer "these are generally low quality PSU's, used at your own/components risk" etc etc

killer_uk · 20 Jul 2006 at 15:39

It's up to the customer to research the product they are going to buy.

t31os · 20 Jul 2006 at 16:40

People don't do research though, get real.....

If people were aware of the quality difference between higher priced items, you wouldnt have ASDA and TESCO's in business, bad analogy i know.

If you buy a new Graphics card, i'll use this for an example, say an x1800.

On the box it clearly states at least 400W PSU required, perhaps more. Now someone fitting a graphics card isnt going to need to know the ins and outs of building, they simply buy it and fit it, a lot of people have fitted the simple things, so you could more easily assume they'd do the same shopping for a PSU.

IF people honestly did research do you think prebuilt PCs in Dixons or any other retailer that sells PC's would still be in business?

I can understand what you're saying, i'm just wondering how you came to the conclusion that people research what they buy?

I can think of lots of people that fitted new parts to their PC but wouldnt know to buy a good brand PSU. I mean heck i still hear lots of people ranting on about how fast their CPU is, just the clock speed, seems they think its all in the mhtz still.....

Can we agree to disagree?

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jul 2006 at 18:56

lets be honest how many people that buy parts seperately, i.e. not a whole system already pre-made dont know what they are doing? if they are buying the parts in the hope of putting them together i think they would do research and also know wtf each part is

TheVoice · 20 Jul 2006 at 19:33

Personally i believe if you care for your customers you wouldnt even stock an item that runs the risk of potentially destroying someones hardware, regardless of wether you offer the support, not everyone is a bright spark.

If that was policy, they'd have to stop selling a lot more than just Qtec PSUs. What about watercooling ("Runs the risk of leaking"), Maxtor hard-drives (can't be denied that they don't exactly have the best reliability history), and all sorts of other stuff.

The fact that Andy mentions that OcUK will monitor orders with Qtec PSUs (and advise a better PSU where necessary) is more than most other retailers would do, I'm sure.

Why is this being dragged out so much? You've heard OcUK's official stance on Qtec PSUs, leave it there.

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jul 2006 at 19:34

t31os said:
On the box it clearly states at least 400W PSU required, perhaps more. Now someone fitting a graphics card isnt going to need to know the ins and outs of building, they simply buy it and fit it, a lot of people have fitted the simple things, so you could more easily assume they'd do the same shopping for a PSU.

IF people honestly did research do you think prebuilt PCs in Dixons or any other retailer that sells PC's would still be in business?

I can understand what you're saying, i'm just wondering how you came to the conclusion that people research what they buy?

I can think of lots of people that fitted new parts to their PC but wouldnt know to buy a good brand PSU. I mean heck i still hear lots of people ranting on about how fast their CPU is, just the clock speed, seems they think its all in the mhtz still.....

Can we agree to disagree?

how would a noob know how to fit a power supply? mobo connections, rails, convertors i dont think so, same with graphics cards you need pc knowledge, my dad doesnt know jack if i told him to change the OS to vista he would have a melt down never mind change hardware