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Q6600 or Penryn??

I have just got the P5K Delux, should i be able to get the 450fsb with the 9450???

Looks like i'll be getting that then.

Weescott - how easy was it to clock the ES that you had or did it take a lot?
 
I would guess the P5K Deluxe will manage 450fsb just fine.

My ES took more time than usual because I was getting used upto the Maximus Formula bios. Figuring out what FSB strap worked best. Limits of voltage, new ram and trying out the plethora of Bios' that have come out for this board.

I got upto 440FSB fine. 450 was flakey. So not knowing what the limit was, I tested EVERYTHING. With the newer Bios' I can get 460 stable. 470 for about 10 seconds windows stable.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=274661

Only takes 1.575v ^
 
Penryn will even work on some 975X boards....certainly a number of Asus mobos will support it, eg. the Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro......:)
 
Hows that justice ?
If a board is capable of supporting it, it should be added via bios update.

Nvidia and Intel both need a kick up the rear, Intel will lose some sales due to 680 owners not wanting to change the mobo, nvidia wil lose mobo sales due to new buyers only buying boards that support penryn, and maybe graphics sales due to no SLI option available on the boards that support penryn.

Granted the market share will maybe be very small, but its us who suffer.

I can see nvidia are concerned that intel would make a board that does both sli and crossfire on one, which would kill off their chipset.

With AMD/ATi partnered, you would think Nvidia/Intel would jump into bed together too !
 
AMD/ATi can't even touch Intel for CPUs and Nvidia for GFX at the moment, they are about a year behind, and Intel and nvidia are just using that to push people about, and not sharing,

If they were to work together, AMD i could see dying out very quick.
 
Not up to speed with Penryn model numbers. I presume they'll all run on a 1333Mhz FSB, except the top-end models which will be 1600Mhz? In this case there won't be a direct replacement for the Q6600 as that's 1066Mhz. On a 1333Mhz bus, the closest they'll get to the Q6600 would be 2.3Ghz or 2.66Ghz. The latter would use an 8x multi so if you jacked the FSB up to 450Mhz (1800 QDR) then that'd give you 3.6Ghz, hopefully at relatively cool temps. That'd probably be the one to go for.

Only problem is that my memory is PC-6400 and might not like 450Mhz speeds without relaxing timings. If so then the question is whether I'd be better doing the above and relaxing the timings or going for one with a 9x multi (if such a thing exists) at 3Ghz. This would be an easy overclock to 3.6Ghz on a 400Mhz FSB, bang on the money for PC-6400 memory. This is exactly what I'm currently doing with my E6850. Question is whether there'll be a 3Ghz quad-core Penryn and what it'll cost.
 
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Good move on Intels part, Nvidia wants to withhold an important piece info from the Intel mobos, only seems fair that Intel punish them for this, it annoys me not being able to do it no matter what i pay for an Intel mobo.

Now i'd get a x9 Penryn quadcore, much easier to clock i guess, and won't require as much from the RAM as the other possibility :) My E6400 is limiting my OC cause of the x8 multi. But motherboards are also doing a lot better at hitting higher FSBs, and with 1600(400FSB) becoming a standard they should go higher than that too.
 
waso_dude said:
AMD/ATi can't even touch Intel for CPUs and Nvidia for GFX at the moment, they are about a year behind, and Intel and nvidia are just using that to push people about, and not sharing,

If they were to work together, AMD i could see dying out very quick.
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Which is not good for anyone. There's already speculation that the lacklustre performance of Phenom will allow Intel to launch Penryn at higher prices than originally planned as people who want the performance will have no choice other than to pay their prices. This is the problem with competition, it's been driving down processor prices to unbelievably low levels over recent years (quad-cores for 160 quid!) but, now that AMD are "beaten" for the time being, Intel will want to get their prices back up as much as they can, firstly to recoup revenue lost during price cuts and secondly to establish a higher base ready for the next round of the war, whenever AMD gets its act together.
 
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Which is not good for anyone. There's already speculation that the lacklustre performance of Phenom will allow Intel to launch Penryn at higher prices than originally planned as people who want the performance will have no choice other than to pay their prices. This is the problem with competition, it's been driving down processor prices to unbelievably low levels over recent years (quad-cores for 160 quid!) but, now that AMD are "beaten" for the time being, Intel will want to get their prices back up as much as they can, firstly to recoup revenue lost during price cuts and secondly to establish a higher base ready for the next round of the war, whenever AMD gets its act together.
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what about people like me, i want the fastest machine i can get for £500 (not upgrading yet....) and so maybe AMD will be the way to go, in the new year pound for pound they will have the fasted processors if intel realese penryn at a higher price....
 
well I'am waiting for the Penryn's will buy one 2 weeks after they come out, and 2 get info on the motherboard which is best etc . bang in my 8800 gts 640mb which I use at high Resolution :-) and 2*1 gb memory"corsair" already have , throw in 2*1GB"corsair" memory again or buy the recent 2 * 2gb ocz, and buy additionally 2 *Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB SATA-II 32MB runing in raid 0 striped like my sytem is now, I should be a happy puppy ! :-)
 
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