Q6600 or Penryn??

[Vogon]

At those prices, TBH whats to shout about ?
Unless we get a 9x1066 chip for under £150,theres not much to touch an E6600 or Q6600 for VFM ... and outsie of benchies,sud all uses 4 cores to any real benefit.
If Intel want to sell them they need to give price incentives, full stop

Even more so when you factor owners of 680i chipsets need a new mobo ... not one iota cost effective to upgrade from a c2d clocked @ 3.3 and upwards IMO

 

[weescott]

Thanks

Do we know the differnce in price or have a rough idea how much they will cost?

NP.

Very roughly, around £330 for the Q9550 and £200 for the Q9450

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680i owners don't NEED a new board. They could get a Wolfdale CPU, after all no one NEED's quad core.

I fancy the 8500 myself, but I am being greedy.

 

[XeNoN89]

NP.

Very roughly, around £330 for the Q9550 and £200 for the Q9450

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680i owners don't NEED a new board. They could get a Wolfdale CPU, after all no one NEED's quad core.

I fancy the 8500 myself, but I am being greedy.

Would the extra £130 be worth it to get an extra 200Mhz or so though

 

[Hobgoblin]

its the multi not the mhz methinks

 

[XeNoN89]

its the multi not the mhz methinks

I know, but the extra multi should allow me to get around 200mhz extra overclock.

 

[gurusan]

200mhz = 130quid ?

Not for me.

 

[pieman109]

Would the DS3, rev 3.3, (965 chipset) support these penryn prozzies, with or without a bios update?

 

[Scoobie Dave]

NP.

Very roughly, around £330 for the Q9550 and £200 for the Q9450

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680i owners don't NEED a new board. They could get a Wolfdale CPU, after all no one NEED's quad core.

I fancy the 8500 myself, but I am being greedy.

£330 for the Q9550?

Hardly bang for buck

 

[Hesky82]

TBH the only Yorkfield cpu that interests me is the cheapest one, but are we definitely going to see a max of 3.6ghz for the Q9450 due to this 450mhz~ limit??

Good stepping Q6600 oems can be had for as little as £140, and I’m pretty sure with the right motherboard and cooling 4ghz isn’t unrealistic.

I could wait but only if the cheap yorks are worth getting over the current sub £150 quad offering.

The only way I can see me getting anymore performance out of these new 45nm quads is to put my hand deeper into my pockets and not go for the low end ones. Do my rantings sort of make sense??

 

[weescott]

Would the DS3, rev 3.3, (965 chipset) support these penryn prozzies, with or without a bios update?

should do.

TBH the only Yorkfield cpu that interests me is the cheapest one, but are we definitely going to see a max of 3.6ghz for the Q9450 due to this 450mhz~ limit?

There is nothing definite about the limit of ES chips being the same as retail, but it looks very likely. Plus a Q9450 has roughly the same performance as a Q6600 while running a lot cooler and not needing expensive cooling. All in all it could work out cheaper to buy a Q9450 over a Q6600 when taking cooling into consideration.

 

[waso_dude]

I think i'll be ordering a Q6600 after xmas i think.

Penryn just won't be good for a few months due to the fsb strap and the low multis.

 

[BassPunk]

I fancy the Q9300

Capable of 3.7GHz (495x7.5)

 

[alexthecheese]

Looks like a particularly uneventful upgrade if you consider it against the Q6600's then. Ho hum...

 

[Hesky82]

There is nothing definite about the limit of ES chips being the same as retail, but it looks very likely. Plus a Q9450 has roughly the same performance as a Q6600 while running a lot cooler and not needing expensive cooling. All in all it could work out cheaper to buy a Q9450 over a Q6600 when taking cooling into consideration.

Hi weescott, In my case I use water cooling and "hot chips" wouldn’t be a problem.

I guess I could go 45nm and sell my watercooling setup and make quite a bit back, but I love it to much to do that!

but as you say, not having to shell out on better cooling will definitely appeal to other people I’m sure!

Looks like a particularly uneventful upgrade if you consider it against the Q6600's then. Ho hum...

only if your willing to spend a couple of hundred on the cpu I guess

 

[MHayes]

The low multi is annoying. I think they are getting wise I mean mobos have automatic overclocking builit into the bios now, or they can argue that it is required. All that 10% speed increase!

I have been waiting for one, nothing will beat them until Intels next gen wich won't be until Q3.

Does anyone know what the current extreme version can do on a x38 at 8x ?

 

[Combat squirrel]

hmmm considering FSB issues, I think the current Q6600 will provide best bang for ya buck, the current ones are only ~ 5-7% slower, clocked high enough they will prob match the average speed of overclocked penryns (i.e. 3.8ghz 6600 VS ~3.4/3.6 penryn [if ** lucky])

 

[waso_dude]

Just ordered myself a q6600

Super cheap atm.

So i'll keep with that for a while as long as it clocks well or i'll swap for a differant one.

 

[weescott]

Does anyone know what the current extreme version can do on a x38 at 8x ?

480FSB is the most I have seen on the QX. I think that was on a Cascade though. So pretty much the same FSB wall as the lower end Yorkies.

 

[theforce]

Those clocks there seems amazing. Too bad my counties climate prevents me from clocking very high since the temps during the summer time 7 months are too hot to overclock a processor to your hearts desire. What do people get with a Q6600 and using an aftermarket cooler? 3.4Ghz + would make me a happy puppy and with the current price of the Q6600 i am tempted to actually enter the darkside
Sorry AMD

 

[sepulchre]

I think I could live with 400mhz less on a Q6600 and have your weather over the British anyday