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QA Consultants concludes that AMD has the most stable graphics driver in the industry.

Even though I much prefer AMD drivers speed, feature set and UI. This report does seem a bit worthless if paid by AMD.

To be honest I hardly ever have issues with either drivers, they just work. Just hope Nvidia update their drivers which look and feel like windows xp era.
 
TNA said:
Even though I much prefer AMD drivers speed, feature set and UI. This report does seem a bit worthless if paid by AMD.

To be honest I hardly ever have issues with either drivers, they just work. Just hope Nvidia update their drivers which look and feel like windows xp era.
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I doubt it matters who paid for it tbh, the same people would be disputing it regardless. AMD paying just makes it easier I guess.
 
Howling said:
I doubt it matters who paid for it tbh, the same people would be disputing it regardless. AMD paying just makes it easier I guess.
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It makes it much easier to question and take serious imo. But I don’t need a study to tell me what I knew already.

It may convince some I suppose, which is good, as the clueless mainstream people think AMD drivers are rubbish. They don’t realise that they are parroting others and talking about a over a decade old issue.
 
CBA to read through all the fan***... wait i got banned for saying this last time... I'll just call it "garbage" in this thread. Personally ive ran ATi and AMD in my system for a long time upto the Fury x and 980ti era where i switched. I am now running my 1080ti which is a beast of a performer. Main reason for the switch was the clear performance difference for me. But i must say ive had noticable more instability and problems with drivers on nvidia to the point i cba updating anymore because what i play and do at present is stable and performs well. So what aint broke dont fix it. I never really had any issues with AMD other than my system resetting my overclock on my 290x but it was a MSI afterburner problem not AMD because once MSI Afterburner updated problem was solved.

Will it make me switch back to AMD probably not. Will it be taken into consideration on next upgrade? Yes but it won't be a deciding factor unless AMD have something on the table that performs similarly to the competition.
I think AMD commissioned this which was done independently to try to put to bed the age old "But AMD drivers suck and are a buggy unstable mess" wife's tale. Funny how some people seem hell bent on making it appear like this can't be true, probably from my point of view because of my experiences. It's why i wont read through all the pages so i don't get baited in. Anyway back to loving my 1080Ti on my present stable drivers :)
 
r7slayer said:
I think AMD commissioned this which was done independently to try to put to bed the age old "But AMD drivers suck and are a buggy unstable mess" wife's tale. Funny how some people seem hell bent on making it appear like this can't be true, probably from my point of view because of my experiences. It's why i wont read through all the pages so i don't get baited in. Anyway back to loving my 1080Ti on my present stable drivers
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I can't be bothered to read through it all again but I don't think anyone has said that at all - what people have done is question the nVidia results with the lack of breakdown on what the actual problem was, less than equal testing methodology and choice of software/drivers and odd results where for some reason two almost identical cards have widely different results but its being passed off as driver instability when it would appear as anything but.
 
r7slayer said:
CBA to read through all the fan***... wait i got banned for saying this last time... I'll just call it "garbage" in this thread. Personally ive ran ATi and AMD in my system for a long time upto the Fury x and 980ti era where i switched. I am now running my 1080ti which is a beast of a performer. Main reason for the switch was the clear performance difference for me.
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You can also look to get more performance by lowering some settings without actually noticably worsening the details level:
Crysis 3 is a great example of how its low looks amazing but still requires a fraction of the compute resources and by going low, you get the framerates counter going through the roof:

 
4K8KW10 said:
Your English is very poor then. Commission and sponsor are two, very different verbs.
Sponsor means to give money in order to put your name there, to advertise.
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So when I sponsor my child to do a walk for charity I get my name plastered all around the school?
No, don't be ridiculous, sponsoring something (verb) simply means to provide the funds for/towards something. The noun sponsor CAN mean a company who provides funding in return for advertising, but sponsor is both a verb and a noun and you've confused the two. People in glass houses and all that. (I'm normally the last person to pull someone up on spelling or grammar but when you start trying to be a grammar nazi and can't even get verb and noun right it makes you look pretty silly).

In this context commission actually indicates a higher chance of bias as it shows the testing was AMD's idea in the first place and they went out to tender to find someone to undertake their testing on their behalf using their funding. This wasn't an independent test that just happens to have received part of its funding from AMD.
 
4K8KW10 said:
You can also look to get more performance by lowering some settings without actually noticably worsening the details level:
Crysis 3 is a great example of how its low looks amazing but still requires a fraction of the compute resources and by going low, you get the framerates counter going through the roof:

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Is not only that. Many games and benchmarks are using 32x and 64x tessellation marked as high or very high or by default.
Yet there is no visual difference between 8x tessellation and 16, 32, 64. Except if you have 100" 1080p monitor and focus on a corner of the image flipping the settings.
Yet the performance hit on AMD cards is big. Because before the 285 AMD hadn't greatly optimized Tesselation engine, newer cards have (Polaris, Vega, Fury).

Also since you mentioned my previous post, Time Spy instead of using Async Compute which is a DX12 feature, is using predictive execution, only supported by Nvidia cards and is irrelevant to DX12. If you search about it is well documented and very detailed.
And this is why many DX12 games are better benchmarks than Time Spy.

But all gets too technical for the average Joe if we start analyzing it.
 
Kirby Wurm said:
They were slower but definitely weren't helped by some developers, this being the example that always springs to mind:

https://techreport.com/review/21404/crysis-2-tessellation-too-much-of-a-good-thing/3
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Yup, that was a total farce which some people still claim was totally accidental. It "just happened" to overuse a technique that amd weren't the fastest in wherever possible. It also "just happened" to be a nvidia sponsored title, some people just can't see the forest for the trees.
 
@Panos - I feel that when a company pays someone to do a test and the test isn't done correctly or fairly, that will bring questions into it. No point getting wound up over it and whilst I have used dozens of GPUs from both vendors, I can't say I have ever had an issue from either. People are not happy with the way the testing is done and frankly, I can see their point.
 
So have I read this thread correctly.

AMD paid for a test.
AMD provided the hardware.
AMD come out ahead in the results.
Most of the failures on both sides came from professional cards.
Most of the NVidia failures from non professional cards came from one possibly faulty card.
The results PDF doesn't actually tell us anything about the actual tests.

7 pages later, its still something to argue about.

Good thread.;)
 
TBH AMD drivers are better at the moment. Less bloated with a faster and nicer interface. I've not had a good experience with geforce cards at all in recent years.
 
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