Questions - Diesel engine and transmission / gearbox reliability circa 2014-2019 -BMW - Mercedes - Audi ( on small hatchback or coupe models)

Rilot said:
What about a Lexus IS300H? Nice enough to drive. Well appointed. You can get a really nice one for the £teensK

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It will be faultlessly reliable.

There are several on the Lexus approved used site: https://used.lexus.co.uk/approved-u...cvt-euro-6-s-s-4dr-jthbh5d2305048605?___SID=U
If you keep servicing it with Lexus, they will keep warrantying it too (up to 10 years or 100k miles)
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I don't usually take any car to main dealer to get serviced . As it usually rips you off. I usually use a special indie garage. But either way the Warrenty on that looks ok .

The car itself though , for £14-17k. I got to be honest it's as blander than the BMWs people are calling bland . Its over my budget. Iv looked at them in the past and they didn't really get the feel for it.

Also plug in hybrid. Why is is every man and his dog on the internet telling me to stay away from petrol hybrids if the battery is over 5-7 years old ? What range will it do on electric with a battery that's almost 10 years old on that last link?
 
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You can have the hybrid system warrantied for up to 15 years and unlimited milage if you have Lexus do a hybrid health check.
People say to stay away from them because they don't understand them and therefore fear them.

My neighbour has a GS450h on a 2006 plate. Still going after 18 years. My other neighbour has a Prius on a 2002 plate. Still works.
 
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The IS300h isn't a plug in hybrid though anyway is it?

I thought they were the regular Toyota 'self charging' hybrids.
 
Just buy that overpriced 2 series then and be done with it, it's clearly what you want and you're just desperate for someone else to tell you it's OK :p
 
Lexus/Toyota warranties are really good and they don't mess you around. Definitely worth getting main dealer services with them.

Probably won't need it though. Last time I went to Toyota with an issue, the franchise owner came out to take a look as they don't get many :P
 
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The 4 Series does nothing the 3 Series doesn't do except cost more money. It's a 3 Series hatchback with slightly different exterior styling.

My view remains that the answer to this question is something considerably newer than your current car, otherwise it's hard to see what real difference you're making.
 
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[TW]Fox said:
The 4 Series does nothing the 3 Series doesn't do except cost more money. It's a 3 Series hatchback with slightly different exterior styling.

My view remains that the answer to this question is something considerably newer than your current car, otherwise it's hard to see what real difference you're making.
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My car is not going to last past 160k. And being let down with a complete engine failure on my last BMW I need a refresh.

I'll look at 3 and 4 series
 
[TW]Fox said:
I can't see how any 10k BMW will be much different. It's not going to buy you a reasonably new or low mileage car and if yours has been well looked after I doubt there will be much difference in expected reliability.
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My stepfather had a huge desire to own a BMW finally bought one except at his budget it was no spring chicken and had 127k+ on the clock it spent half its time in and out of the garage fixing quite expensive stuff when he passed the first thing my mother did was get rid of it
 
DJMK4 said:
My car is not going to last past 160k.
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And a "new" one might not last past 70k miles :confused: (Particularly if you insist on looking at bottom of the barrel examples from "dealers" who make a big deal about "providing" a 3 month warranty)

DJMK4 said:
And being let down with a complete engine failure on my last BMW I need a refresh.
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If you've had bad experiences buying BMW's far enough into their life that you experience these sort of problems, why keep doing it to yourself?
 
Armageus said:
And a "new" one might not last past 70k miles :confused: (Particularly if you insist on looking at bottom of the barrel examples from "dealers" who make a big deal about "providing" a 3 month warranty)


If you've had bad experiences buying BMW's far enough into their life that you experience these sort of problems, why keep doing it to yourself?
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Because they are fun to drive.

Ok, the alternative then. Skoda Octavia or a passat..which seems to be the default here unless you want to spend £25k on a car
 
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Armageus said:
And a "new" one might not last past 70k miles :confused: (Particularly if you insist on looking at bottom of the barrel examples from "dealers" who make a big deal about "providing" a 3 month warranty)
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Did you read up the thread a little? I said I spotted something at an Audi main dealer with 12 months warranty, 55k miles, but it opened another door for me, and I'll have to see if they have any more like that..even still. I posted it. Immediately got shot down ..

With 12 months Warrenty.
 
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Just to sow some fear we had a 320d f30 manual that at 70k miles just decided it wouldn't go in to reverse no more, car was under three years old got a replacement gearbox from bmw under warranty, car got written off less than two weeks later when someone pulled out of a junction on me :cry: invoice from BMW was nearly 3k.
 
DJMK4 said:
Did you read up the thread a little? I said I spotted something at an Audi main dealer with 12 months warranty, 55k miles, but it opened another door for me, and I'll have to see if they have any more like that..even still. I posted it. Immediately got shot down ..

With 12 months Warrenty.
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yes I've gone 12month warranty on a used audi ... only reservation I've subsequently had was when I noted that warranties may not cover diagnostic work to establish what the fault is
(I need to do some more research on that)
that won't impact the analysis of the 3-zone air conditioning problem I encountered as I drove away from dealer though.- LOL - I just shut the vent down thinking the cold air was just because I hadn't read the manual
 
jpaul said:
yes I've gone 12month warranty on a used audi ... only reservation I've subsequently had was when I noted that warranties may not cover diagnostic work to establish what the fault is
(I need to do some more research on that)
that won't impact the analysis of the 3-zone air conditioning problem I encountered as I drove away from dealer though.- LOL - I just shut the vent down thinking the cold air was just because I hadn't read the manual
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Can you use your own diagnostics and prove it to them or do they ask you pay for their diagnostic?
 
DJMK4 said:
Can you use your own diagnostics and prove it to them or do they ask you pay for their diagnostic?
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I don't own a general purpose obd scanner for cars ... kinda seems crazy newer cars can't report issues directly to dealer now or itemize it on touch screen for owner
(I believe teslas good on this front) that said found a dealer who read the obscure codes on my 3er abs module for just £15.
e: yes I realise common sense comes before an obd tool's use.
 
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DJMK4 said:
Can you use your own diagnostics and prove it to them or do they ask you pay for their diagnostic?
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They won't be interested in your diagnosis, they'll want to confirm it for themselves. The diagnosis charge is an issue only if the fault isn't covered by the warranty - they'll want paying for their time..
 
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