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I'm disappointed when people comment on something without actually reading the source document.
If you really cared that much, you'd make the effort, wouldn't you?
Race report: 'UK not deliberately rigged against ethnic minorities'
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I'm disappointed when people comment on something without actually reading the source document.
If you really cared that much, you'd make the effort, wouldn't you?
Same thing again, one idiot doesn't mean it's a massive issue in the UK, not that it doesn't exist but it's not anything substantial.
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It was in response to whether or not there was a 'significant problem of racism in the UK', nothing to do with individual or institutional, I'd agree with you that it's individual racism
This is quite serious, you know, for a document this high profile, being weaponised in such a way by the government, to have actually listed contributors who have had nothing to do with it.
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From memory, the report says that the term "institutional racism" is poorly understood and that has led to it being overused, incorrectly.
I believe they said it is a valid term but, in the past, it's been ascribed incorrectly, and that's unhelpful.
I don't remember the report saying it doesn't exist, but i might be wrong.
The report says there is no proof of institutional racism, which there isn't. Personally I've never seen any in my working life either.
Though I have seen people try to play the race card to avoid being fired for something dumb they did. Maybe BLM are only listening to that side of a story.
Though I have seen people try to play the race card to avoid being fired for something dumb they did. Maybe BLM are only listening to that side of a story.
How do you think your own credibility compares?
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If that is the Stephen Bourne it was referring to, not saying it is or it isnt but it isnt like people have the same name
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If only you could relay this message to the Far right brigade on here who think one nutty religious nutter equates to all following that religion being the same.
Also I have not read the report, I thought this was a race report, but I am sure I saw a couple of people mention religion near the top of the thread? Can one of you expert who have read the report inside out clarify where religion comes into this??
I am of Asian background, and my own personal opinion is that the UK has moved on a great deal from a few decades ago, the system itself has changed and I don't think majority of the BAME community will suffer systemic racism (current systems) but obviously there are still loads of racists people about, and it cannot be avoided given that the country is majority white. I mean even look at this thread and you can easily spot them. Likewise you can go to most other countries and you will see similar level of racism towards outsiders. Not that it makes it right though.
I think from reading the comments and what I have heard Class/Wealth/Education is definitely a bigger factor in the current climate compared to race.
Saying that if you step out of the multicultural areas of the country you are more likely to encounter racist attitudes and behaviour from individuals, generally from the uneducated or those brainwashed by the likes of far right terrorist groups.
In the four professional SMEs I've worked for, two routinely threw out CVs of anyone with a foreign name.
A lack of response to the usual losers in this thread does not mean that what they’ve said is the truth. Some people are not worth bothering replying to other than to wind up or mock.
It is. Another academic named in the report, S I Martin, has also said they weren't consulted, and would have refused if they were asked.
Indeed, it’s almost as if this report isn’t worth the paper it’s written on and client journalists are just using it to further the aims of the government.
I post here under the name HurfDurf, and I’m openly mocking large swathes of the basement dwelling right wing melts. It’s nothing more than a dive into the GD abyss to see if anything is being said that’s worth paying attention to from what is largely, a very sad and unsuccessful posting pool. (Bar the odd exception from some experts in specific fields who wander in here from time to time)
Just out of curiosity, what is it that you do for a living?
I have seen a few people use gender/race to get out of being sacked/getting disciplinary etc. Even seen a lady take the manager to HR tribunal complaining of being "targeted" for being a "black female" when he raised issues about her work performance. Unfortunately somehow she won, which meant she was doing hardly any work on most days, I was sitting behind her and could see she was doing online shopping/browsing etc most days (at least whenever I looked up). Did the odd email here and there and that was it. Everyone in the department knew but the manager couldn't do anything about it.
Likewise there are also genuine cases where people have been targeted because of their race, maybe not as much now? The problem is just like with anything the few would spoil it and allow those that are truly racist an excuse to tarnish all with the same brush.
In that case it is rather concerning why they did that for sure. I presume to lend some credibility and weight to the work
So what do you hope to achieve? If nothing, why do you spend so much time reading and posting here, when you have no regard for the viewpoints of most of us?