Racing Simulators

i'm insterested in a trial of this too, can anyone advise me on how i can get it, also if someone could please let me use their email addy as referrer? any help will be much appreciated and then i can set my trust g25 back up! cheers.
 
Any of the other rookies here been promoted to a D license?

Now do I stick with the MX5 or buy something else.... hmmm

I can definitely recommend the Skip Barber, this week is at Laguna Seca as well so no need to buy any tracks just yet, although that also means it's at Laguna Seca this week, which sucks :p

i'm insterested in a trial of this too, can anyone advise me on how i can get it, also if someone could please let me use their email addy as referrer? any help will be much appreciated and then i can set my trust g25 back up! cheers.

Go here:

http://www.iracing.com/buy-1-get-2/

And click on the green 'Activate Promotion' link about a third of the way down, then enter your details etc and sign up (that's the 3 months for $12, there were some other codes posted earlier in the thread, to use one of those you need to go to http://www.iracing.com/membership/#Promo and enter the promo code from here)

Email is noskilluk <at> gmail <dot> com, Cheers :)
 
I can definitely recommend the Skip Barber, this week is at Laguna Seca as well so no need to buy any tracks just yet, although that also means it's at Laguna Seca this week, which sucks :p



Go here:

http://www.iracing.com/buy-1-get-2/

And click on the green 'Activate Promotion' link about a third of the way down, then enter your details etc and sign up (that's the 3 months for $12, there were some other codes posted earlier in the thread, to use one of those you need to go to http://www.iracing.com/membership/#Promo and enter the promo code from here)

Email is noskilluk <at> gmail <dot> com, Cheers :)

ok cheers, skill m8, i will have a look at the thread for some of the codes or will decide on joining up for the 3 month $12 deal. i'll add your email addy as referrer if i sign up.

what is the general feeling between racers and behaviour, on past experience with lfs2 it was sometimes a bit wild, saying that what kind of chance do you have as a noob joining iracing? cheers in advance.
 
That's the beauty of the iRacing system itself, essentially it's run, to an extent, like a proper racing series. It has a sanctioning body (called FIRST), and a sporting code by which all drivers should adhere to. Those that don't adhere to it can be protested and in theory punished.

On a more cynical level the protest system is completely closed, you lodge a protest and then you just get a 'protest accepted/denied' style email, no idea of punishment etc. And a lot of people hold the belief that protesting is worthless (I disagree, even if they are lenient for a first offence they do make a note so multiple offences are likely to get more punishment)

But more importantly on a race by race basis is the Safety Rating (SR) of each driver, this (along with a 'minimum participation') are what allows you to race the quicker cars, so you start at a Rookie with an SR of 2.5, if you get that over 3 at the end of a season, or over 4 at any time, you'll progress to D-Class, then C, B and A.

There are also two more levels, Pro and DWC, Pro is achieved by a combination of high SR and a high iRating (which is influenced purely by finishing position, eg it's how 'good' you are). DWC is achieved by being in the top 30 iirc of the Pro drivers at the end of a special championship.

But for mere mortals SR is essentially a case of work up to A Class and then just maintain it. How these reflects on racing is simple, every incident that occurs during a race, from an off track '1x' to a heavy car contact '4x' gets put on your record (against corners taken), this is then used to determine your SR.

As most people want to increase their SR, and hence licence level, the racing is made much cleaner by this rating being there. But it's not without it's issues, firstly it's 'non-fault' eg if someone ploughs into the back of you then you get 4 incidents as well as them, this is mostly evened out by the multitude of times that people won't plough into the back of you :p

The other issue with SR is that it is 'easy' to keep/gain at Rookie, so the lower level racing has a habit of being much rougher/messier/dirtier than the higher level racing, but that generally keeps itself specifically to the rookie races themselves, as soon as you get to D Class and the skippies it gets a lot cleaner, and even the rookie races are generally quite good compared to some of the stuff I've seen on LFS/rFactor public races...
 
I used to play GPL, but it has died of death.

There is still a pretty active GPL community. But you need to join a league if you want to race online.

Sounds like I'll give rFactor a miss - I'd hoped some mods would make it worth while, but as it is it feels arcadey.

To be fair to rFactor, I wouldn't use the stock cars that come with the game as an indication of the physics engine. There are few quality mods with pretty damn good physics models.
 
Thx Skill on the recommendation.

Bought the Skip last night and in testing I'm lapping in the 1:44's round Laguna. Love this car! Feels like a proper racer with it's slides and twitches, most excellent fun dude =)
 
To be fair to rFactor, I wouldn't use the stock cars that come with the game as an indication of the physics engine. There are few quality mods with pretty damn good physics models.

Agreed, especially some of the 1970/80/90s F1 mods which are so much more fun to drive than the current F1 sims with all the technological aids.
Most mods also support the Forcefeedback plugins such as Reelfeel that make the driving experience realistic and so much better.
 
Unfortunately sub-£50 wheels are generally crap, realistically the cheapest wheel I'd go for is the Logitech DFGT (around £80), below that I'd actually recommend sticking with a gamepad (xbox360 pad seems to be recommended in general, no idea how that fares in F1 2010/sims)

I've only played F1 2010 with my wheel personally but I'd imagine it would work quite nicely with a gamepad.

Also worth noting that F1 2010 isn't really a sim, it's quite a large learning curve between F1 2010 and the likes of iRacing etc. Guess it kinda sits in the middle as 'semi-sim' with things like Forza/GT/NFS Shift etc.


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I almost bought a Thrustmaster Ferrari GT for £37 yesterday, but your post stopped me. :p If it's really that bad I'll just wait and get a DFGT.

What "proper" sims would you recommend for offline play? I want to try iRacing but I'd like a wheel first.
 
That's the beauty of the iRacing system itself, essentially it's run, to an extent, like a proper racing series. It has a sanctioning body (called FIRST), and a sporting code by which all drivers should adhere to. Those that don't adhere to it can be protested and in theory punished.

On a more cynical level the protest system is completely closed, you lodge a protest and then you just get a 'protest accepted/denied' style email, no idea of punishment etc. And a lot of people hold the belief that protesting is worthless (I disagree, even if they are lenient for a first offence they do make a note so multiple offences are likely to get more punishment)

But more importantly on a race by race basis is the Safety Rating (SR) of each driver, this (along with a 'minimum participation') are what allows you to race the quicker cars, so you start at a Rookie with an SR of 2.5, if you get that over 3 at the end of a season, or over 4 at any time, you'll progress to D-Class, then C, B and A.

There are also two more levels, Pro and DWC, Pro is achieved by a combination of high SR and a high iRating (which is influenced purely by finishing position, eg it's how 'good' you are). DWC is achieved by being in the top 30 iirc of the Pro drivers at the end of a special championship.

But for mere mortals SR is essentially a case of work up to A Class and then just maintain it. How these reflects on racing is simple, every incident that occurs during a race, from an off track '1x' to a heavy car contact '4x' gets put on your record (against corners taken), this is then used to determine your SR.

As most people want to increase their SR, and hence licence level, the racing is made much cleaner by this rating being there. But it's not without it's issues, firstly it's 'non-fault' eg if someone ploughs into the back of you then you get 4 incidents as well as them, this is mostly evened out by the multitude of times that people won't plough into the back of you :p

The other issue with SR is that it is 'easy' to keep/gain at Rookie, so the lower level racing has a habit of being much rougher/messier/dirtier than the higher level racing, but that generally keeps itself specifically to the rookie races themselves, as soon as you get to D Class and the skippies it gets a lot cleaner, and even the rookie races are generally quite good compared to some of the stuff I've seen on LFS/rFactor public races...

thanks mate, thats a great bit of info to know.
 
Hmm. Wondering what to race next for the Ovals. Dying to race the Impala SS properly but it's class A and i've only got a class D licence :( Leaning towards the late model at the moment but not sure how popular it is.

Being able to finally see my SR has certainly pointed out how much i suck at road racing!
 
Usually plenty racing the late model, however this is a must buy car to race on road courses. There used to be a private league that ran LM on road courses and it was immense fun :)
 
Thx Skill on the recommendation.

Bought the Skip last night and in testing I'm lapping in the 1:44's round Laguna. Love this car! Feels like a proper racer with it's slides and twitches, most excellent fun dude =)

I love the skippy, don't need to bother with setups, just chuck 3.8 gallons of fuel in for all tracks and drive the thing, simple-ish and yet so demanding to get 'quick' in, I've got all the other cars and generally like them (not a fan of the Star Mazda) but the skippy is what I keep coming back to :)

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I almost bought a Thrustmaster Ferrari GT for £37 yesterday, but your post stopped me. :p If it's really that bad I'll just wait and get a DFGT.

What "proper" sims would you recommend for offline play? I want to try iRacing but I'd like a wheel first.

Depends what you want, if AI I think the Simbin GTR2/Race-07/GTR-Evo or whatever the current one is called is quite highly regarded, if just driving/hotlapping then GPL with GPLRank used to keep me amused pre-iRacing, plus the odd bit of LFS/rFactor (huge amount of content for rFactor, some of it as mentioned quite good)

Hmm. Wondering what to race next for the Ovals. Dying to race the Impala SS properly but it's class A and i've only got a class D licence :( Leaning towards the late model at the moment but not sure how popular it is.

Being able to finally see my SR has certainly pointed out how much i suck at road racing!

Late Model is very popular, you'll get races at every 2 hours no problems, and probably splits (eg more than one 'servers' worth of racers) all the time as well, not a bad car to drive but I personally prefer the SK Modified, but then there are less drivers for that so less races/splits.
 
Usually plenty racing the late model, however this is a must buy car to race on road courses. There used to be a private league that ran LM on road courses and it was immense fun :)

ORO? I made the website/kinda-co-hosted that one with Nigel, was great fun and there was talk a while ago of bringing it back in one way or another, we'll see :)

Legends is obviously better as a road course car though :D
 
Not loving this weeks track for the LM. It doesn't seem all that hard but there's not even really a straight. It's quite literally turning left for 65 laps with a slight variation in throttle. That said it was at least easy to drive without incident.
 
anyone ? trying to sign up to the free demo before it expires. need a members email to sign up :(

he referral program rewards members for inviting new racers to join iRacing.com. If you have been referred to us by a current member, and you identify him or her when you sign up for a three-, six- or 12-month subscription, that member will receive a $10 credit in iRacing dollars. This credit can be used to purchase additional content or applied to the extension of his or her membership. Simply enter the referring member's email address in the box to the left, and we will take care of the rest.



Note: The Referral Program only applies to new subscriptions; account renewals are ineligible. In order for the referring member to receive the referral reward, the email associated with the referring member's active iRacing account must be entered by the new member at the time of subscription.
So is there actually a way of playing this without having to hand over credit card details, ala a demo??? I can't find this on their site.
 
Anyone with the Skip Barber played around with the brake, tyres, suspension setup or have you always stuck with the standard iRacing settings?

Yes, it's definitely worth doing, I'll post mine when I get back from work this evening although it might be a bit oversteerey for some peoples taste (I do enjoy going sideways :p)

I only use the one setup for any track, the limited options mean (imo) there's not much point fiddling about unless you're properly quick, and I'm not :p

There's not a huge amount to change but back in the day when I looked into it after starting to use the skippy the main change to suit driving style was front tyre pressures, higher = more understeer, down to about 22/23 for an 'alien' setup which is quite tricky...

Not loving this weeks track for the LM. It doesn't seem all that hard but there's not even really a straight. It's quite literally turning left for 65 laps with a slight variation in throttle. That said it was at least easy to drive without incident.

You've gotta love Oxford Plains though, as you say it's just a circle, not even a big one, I especially love running out wide over the camber change and getting the car properly sideways, may not be best for the tyres though :p

So is there actually a way of playing this without having to hand over credit card details, ala a demo??? I can't find this on their site.

Don't think so, they did at one point offer a free trial with no cc requirement and people inevitably took the ****, hence the requirement now (and not sure if the free trial is still running, it was mentioned earlier?)
 
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