Racist! Really?

The same people would be calling Spitting Image racist, offensive, whateverist and demanding it be taken off air today.

It's no surprise there is no real humor on the BBC any more. They can't show any without the full-time offended writing a harshly worded letter to them.
 
Jono8 said:
I am not reaching for anything, other than reality.

I just refuse to be told by GD that the cartoon woman here:



Is supposed to be a depiction of this woman:

:p

It is absurd.

It is a drawing of a white woman with long straight fully blonde hair.
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Which bring us back to the points that she's not the focal point of the cartoon and it's not meant to be an accurate portrait of either player.
She's just a tiny background figure, which reflects the real life situation of it being all about Serena. The poor girl who actually won the title has next to no attention due to Serena's nonsense.

Moaning about the accuracy of her depiction is silly.
 
Jono8 said:
The artist drew a white woman with long straight fully blonde hair. Whether this was done intentionally based on some sort of racist viewpoint, who knows, I don't think it was, but it is a drawing of a white woman with long straight fully blonde hair and is barely even close to being a drawing of Osaka.
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well he made her too thin and the hair is a bit off, but if he wanted her to be white why didn't he use similar colouring to the umpire...

this idea that he drew a white person there has already been debunked and frankly you're clutching at straws even bringing it up, she's a person in the background, she's not the subject of the cartoon
 
Jono8 said:
The hair is irrelevant (but still completely wrong if it was meant to be osaka).

Grabbing a swatch of the darkest shaded bit of skin on one and comparing it to the lightest shaded bit of the other is a meaningless comparison

Either the artist is dreadful/colourblind or he intentionally drew the opponent as a white blonde woman.

I'm honestly flummoxed that this is even up for debate.
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What are you talking about, I took 3 samples on serenea because far more detail has been put into her, shading, than Osaka because she’s in the back. I took a part of her that to me looked the darkest, the lightest and somewhere in between. Osaka’s colour is monochrome because she’s in the background and not the focus of the cartoon I explain this in my post. I’m not trying to deceive. If you’re so certain you’re right just do it yourself in paint.

I even drew blue lines showing where I took the samples from.
 
Uncle Petey said:
Which bring us back to the points that she's not the focal point of the cartoon and it's not meant to be an accurate portrait of either player.
She's just a tiny background figure, which reflects the real life situation of it being all about Serena. The poor girl who actually won the title has next to no attention due to Serena's nonsense.

Moaning about the accuracy of her depiction is silly.
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I am not the one moaning about the accuracy of it. I have just stated what the people complaining about it have brought up. Its others trying to claim it isn't a white person he has drawn that is bizarre.

I can see why that may have raised a few eyebrows, but i, like you agree it is most likely fairly innocuous.
 
Jono8 said:
I am not reaching for anything, other than reality.

I just refuse to be told by GD that the cartoon woman here:
what.jpg



Is supposed to be a depiction of this woman:

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:p

It is absurd.

The artist drew a white woman with long straight fully blonde hair. Whether this was done intentionally based on some sort of racist viewpoint, who knows, I don't think it was, but it is a drawing of a white woman with long straight fully blonde hair and is barely even close to being a drawing of Osaka.
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This snippet you’ve taken to prove a point is disingenuous. What you’ve now done is made what is a very small part of the cartoon the focus. Why don’t you now focus on the crowd and how they don’t have faces? Of course it’s poor detail and never going to be an accurate depiction of Osaka because she’s in the background. You may also note her legs seemed to have blended into the net fairly sure she has legs irl, she has no eyes ( is that an Asian stereotype, go on I dare you to claim racism here ) and no lips.

And none of that is because she’s trying to be depicted as a white woman, it’s because she is a small part in the background of a low resolution cartoon. You really need to stop seeing things where it’s not there. She had a blonde pony tail which she does in real life. Her skin colour is close to that of serenas, your argument that I was being selective is complete bull **** and if I was then it’s easy for you to prove by doing your self but you won’t. And finally you still can’t answer the question that if the artists intent was to make her appear white then why the **** did he make her skin colour the same as serenas and in direct contrast to the WHITE umpire.

I’m at the point of believeing you’re wilfully ignorant or just trolling, so I’m done now.
 
Mason- said:
This snippet you’ve taken to prove a point is disingenuous. What you’ve now done is made what is a very small part of the cartoon the focus. Why don’t you now focus on the crowd and how they don’t have faces? Of course it’s poor detail and never going to be an accurate depiction of Osaka because she’s in the background. You may also note her legs seemed to have blended into the net fairly sure she has legs irl, she has no eyes ( is that an Asian stereotype, go on I dare you to claim racism here ) and no lips.

And none of that is because she’s trying to be depicted as a white woman, it’s because she is a small part in the background of a low resolution cartoon. You really need to stop seeing things where it’s not there. She had a blonde pony tail which she does in real life. Her skin colour is close to that of serenas, your argument that I was being selective is complete bull **** and if I was then it’s easy for you to prove by doing your self but you won’t. And finally you still can’t answer the question that if the artists intent was to make her appear white then why the **** did he make her skin colour the same as serenas and in direct contrast to the WHITE umpire.

I’m at the point of believeing you’re wilfully ignorant or just trolling, so I’m done now.
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He hasnt, in anyway tried to depict or draw Osaka apart from maybe the visor. For a start Osaka has the same type of hair as Serena, not long straight completely blonde hair.

Im not looking for anything that isnt there, because what is there, as plain as the eye can see, is a drawing of a white woman with long straight fully blonde hair in a ponytail. It isnt a drawing of Osaka.

Whats this about her legs blending into the net? The legs are clearly coloured in and a different colour to their surroundings.

I wont be told to disbeleive what i can clearly see.
 
Jono8 said:
I don't know , why didn't he colour her in blue?
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she isn't blue???

No it hasn't. There is nothing to debunk. He drew a white person.
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well there is, there is your claim that he drew a white person - it has been debunked already, he drew the umpire as a white person - you can look at the colour used there and compare with the colour used on the irrelevant background person that he didn't even spend time filling in the eyes for... he clearly didn't intend for her to be white - you're just trying way too hard to find something to criticise. She's slim, he's not got the hair right... but who cares, she's not the subject of the cartoon - but to pretend she's been drawn as a "white person" when you have, as a reference point, a white person he has drawn within the same cartoon and are able to objectively check the colours yourself rather than pretend to be blind to it and carry on maintaining that your subjective view is correct is rather disingenuous and serves little purpose other than to act as a tenuous reason for you to carry on repeating sanctimonious posts.
 
dowie said:
or perhaps you've got **** eye sight if you think she's a "fat old woman" in that cartoon where she's clearly muscular and there isn't anything to suggest her being "old"

I’m inclined to agree with you there dowie, if I’m supposed to be seeing a “fat
old woman” in that cartoon, I’d better make an appointment at SpecSavers.
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Screeeech said:
I actually thought the cartoon was quite funny, but I think your right - portraying Osaka as a white blonde is a bit weird...

Then again, the cartoonist is Australian, and they generally don't give a **** :D
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This article contains a current picture of her:

https://hollywoodlife.com/2018/09/08/who-is-naomi-osaka-tennis-player-serena-williams-us-open/

Blonde hair. Presumably she dyed it recently. As the editor of the newspaper said, she was portrayed with a blonde ponytail because she has a blonde ponytail.

Also, she was portrayed as grey in the cartoon I saw. Which is a bit weird, but not in the same way.

The umpire was portrayed as having an improbably huge nose. I'm sure we could find something wrong about that if we try hard enough. Racist against jews or something. Or maybe eagles.
 
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