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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

Well, that's how the original discussion started.

And I would argue that saying that people who dont buy from principle are 'weak customers' would very much be trying to guilt people. lol I know you've taken that comment back, but still, it's more or less the gist of the sentiment - if you dont choose to buy AMD, then you're hurting the industry. That's pretty much the definition of guilt tripping people.

Think of it kind of like religion - if you have your own beliefs, great, but dont try and press them on others. Other people aren't 'wrong' or 'weak', they simply have different priorities and preferences than you do. Dont think that people who buy Nvidia dont 'see the big picture', either. I'm sure many do, but aren't exactly going to compromise their own needs to help AMD's cause, which shouldn't be their burden. If you'd like to support AMD then that's cool, I respect that. But it shouldn't be demanded of consumers.

you still griefing? get over it dude. If people want to go buy a 1070/1080 then go ahead and buy one. Why come into this thread and hope AMD can get Nvidia to reduce prices?
 
I wonder. If 980ti somehow gets to around 250-300 price range even 2nd hand market if new isnt able to. What reason i wonder should i as an example go for a 480 when a 980ti would be more attractive to me if i wanted to stay with nvidia. As a 480 a medium quality one would probably be about 250 at least yeah? As i wouldnt touch the blower cheapest ones but also wouldnt touch the highest end ones as pennies are important and no need to go to extremes for a cooler really. Vram isnt a issue say as i think 6gb would be more than enough from a 980ti so the 480s 8gb is mute point for example to me.

As when all this talk of 480s came out i thought hmm a card thats good at about 970-980 levels for under £200 for 8gb as well. Sounded great. But now the 8gb is probably gona go up to 230 but 250 for a reasonable aftermarket one. So now the fabled 199 dollar card doesnt seem quite as cheap and powerful as it sounded in the presentation i guess is what im wondering.

Oh and another question. Anyone know yet if the 480s would come with dvi as my monitors are vga so i use a vga to dvi adapter still as i never got around to buying a new monitor when my dvi capable monitor died.
 
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I wonder. If 980ti somehow gets to around 250-300 price range even 2nd hand market if new isnt able to. What reason i wonder should i as an example go for a 480 when a 980ti would be more attractive to me if i wanted to stay with nvidia. As a 480 a medium quality one would probably be about 250 at least yeah? As i wouldnt touch the blower cheapest ones but also wouldnt touch the highest end ones as pennies are important and no need to go to extremes for a cooler really. Vram isnt a issue say as i think 6gb would be more than enough from a 980ti so the 480s 8gb is mute point for example to me.

As when all this talk of 480s came out i thought hmm a card thats good at about 970-980 levels for under £200 for 8gb as well. Sounded great. But now the 8gb is probably gona go up to 230 but 250 for a reasonable aftermarket one. So now the fabled 199 dollar card doesnt seem quite as cheap and powerful as it sounded in the presentation i guess is what im wondering.

Oh and another question. Anyone know yet if the 480s would come with dvi as my monitors are vga so i use a vga to dvi adapter still as i never got around to buying a new monitor when my dvi capable monitor died.

Far as i know, 480's won't come with DVI. However i use DVI as well. If i switch over to AMD, i would simply use an adapter. End of story.
I also think about the price etc. and i give a shot to them. Recently the nvidia drivers are going downhill. I always loved to use nvidia products because of the useful 3rd party tools but enough is enough.
 
I hope this card can deliver excellent price to perf.

Looking at the chiphell's video leak with the 3268 Firestrike Ultra score, that card had a 6+8 pin connector. Cant see why a 100w card needs them connectors so I'm thinking it maybe fake. Hopefully my thinking is wrong.
 
I hope this card can deliver excellent price to perf.

Looking at the chiphell's video leak with the 3268 Firestrike Ultra score, that card had a 6+8 pin connector. Cant see why a 100w card needs them connectors so I'm thinking it maybe fake. Hopefully my thinking is wrong.

The newer wccftech leak talks about 'beast mode' rx480 that clock far higher than reference 480. Where some AIB 480 will come with 6, 8, 6+6 or 8+6 connectors. With the beast mode versions using 8+6 connectors.
 
Geez.. Im lookin at ebay for 980ti and there going for about 200-250 notes. Id seriously go for one of them than the 480 at that price. Why are they so cheap there? Doubt they would be faulty either and probably has some warranty too if asked and got a receipt. The 480s to compete with second hand 980ti need to be well under 200 notes i reckon.
 
You'll probably be able to get a custom one with DVI, like the Furys, as im pretty sure the Asus Strix Fury had DVI.
Custom one is a different story, may able to find one with DVI . I use 2 monitors with DVI but i won't bother myself to use adapter to solve my problem. if i feel like the card won't work out for me, i still got an option to send it back.
 
Names

So with this new naming scheme, and given that big/full Polaris is RX480, I guess we can expect 490/490X from Vega 10 and Fury/FuryX from Vega 11?

Personally, I like the whole anger-derived concept and would love to see them build upon that and ditch 490 and the X version (Fury X) for other variations. Can't really come up with enough though. Something like:

RX Wrath (490 level)
RX Fury (490X level)
RX Rage (former Fury)
RX Outrage (Fury X level)
 
Well, that's how the original discussion started.

And I would argue that saying that people who dont buy from principle are 'weak customers' would very much be trying to guilt people. lol I know you've taken that comment back, but still, it's more or less the gist of the sentiment - if you dont choose to buy AMD, then you're hurting the industry. That's pretty much the definition of guilt tripping people.

Think of it kind of like religion - if you have your own beliefs, great, but dont try and press them on others. Other people aren't 'wrong' or 'weak', they simply have different priorities and preferences than you do. Dont think that people who buy Nvidia dont 'see the big picture', either. I'm sure many do, but aren't exactly going to compromise their own needs to help AMD's cause, which shouldn't be their burden. If you'd like to support AMD then that's cool, I respect that. But it shouldn't be demanded of consumers.
I never said buy AMD either, you can buy Nvidia if you want but when you fall for even the silly and dirty tricks like the founders edition overcharging then that's when it starts to make me sceptical on consumer intellis gence (not general intelligence but just rational and logical approach to mnot getting ripped off). For me I see no reason why someone wouldn't just wait for the AIB versions with better cooling, cheaper price and not let Nvidia overcharge them when they know they can getow the same card cheaper not too long from now. If you really want Nivida then fine, it doesn't make reality disappear or make it necessarily a logical or rational decision though.
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I think I made it clear I was pointing out to you how someone could comment they wanted Nvidia to go down. No guilt trip but just a few examples. If it comes off as negative then that's because things can be negative and factual in a rational and none emotional argument. I'm not even saying buy AMD, consumers can be pro-consumer by simply witholding on buying the product they want for a little longer so it's not even an all AMD argument from me. As I explained, the point was to give you an idea why someone might want Nvidia to go down to AMD so that's why I mentioned AMD. No one is saying buy AMD and you're reading more into it than you need to and arguing things that aren't being said. To restart this one more time, simply refresh your entire perspective on what I said as I've made it clear it's not anti-nvidia so you somehow going on about it being pro AMD highlights you've misunderstood it, you simply have to acknowledge from the get go it was to highlight why SOME would want change. On the same tone of being honest and not beating around the bush I'll admit I think Nvidia fans don't have that same outlook of looking at the big picture generally :p Either way, I don't think there's much sense in arguing it, the Nvidia user base don't tend to look at that kind of stuff if past experience is any indication.
 
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The newer wccftech leak talks about 'beast mode' rx480 that clock far higher than reference 480. Where some AIB 480 will come with 6, 8, 6+6 or 8+6 connectors. With the beast mode versions using 8+6 connectors.

I see, so as the chiphell video had a 6+8pin, it possibly was a 'beast mode' non ref card which got 32xx FS Ultra score. Which I would expect to be more expensive than the ref card cost bounded about.

Then we are looking at a lesser score for the ref design, if leaks are to be true.
 
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