They have publicly shown die shots that predate GP104 retail chips. They ave publicly stated that Drive PX2 units with GP106 chips are shipping to auto OEms in April.
still doesnt mean they have the volume ready to ship to market in july, it could be august or september, they might do like gp104 paper launch it, then stock start showing a month later, but anyhow your evidence for a close launch are inexistant, not even an announcement from Nvidia, i will concede to your opinion if they do, but for now i go with what i see.
A constraint on what stock?
i dont see the point of arguing about the obvious.
Where did I say that?
Polaris 10 will sell up to $300 as explained by AMD. Vega could come in at $400 for the lower end model. Where did you get $800-100- form, no one is going to pay that much for an AMD cards anytime soon.
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I can imagine we get the 460-470-480 for the low end and Vega which takes on the 1080ti, but the 1070 and 108 will sit in a niche by themselves
*) Global Foundries have technical issues for chip larger
you said 1080/1070 would sit alone in a niche while vega is supposed to be Ti competition, so i pointed out that it was wrong, and vega have 2 chips, vega 11 have the advantage of knowing exactly the performance to beat, so it's fair to assume vega 11 will be faster than 1080/1070, and the same risk to happen with vega 10 and Ti.
and the price is 199$ not 300$, i know it's an agressive price, but you can say it, one hundred and ninety nine dollars!
I didn't confirm anything, is English not your native language? I merely pointed it out as 1 possibility. Its called speculation.
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Global Foundries have technical issues for chip larger that 220mm^2, AMD have a 350mm chip that they just can't release due to yields.
to me a better indicator for yields, is the price of the cards, besides AMD already stated that they are pleased with the yields they have from 14finfet.
and no my english is not my native language, it's actualy my 3rd one learned at college, 1h per week for 3 years, then at the university with 3h per week for 2 years, the rest is internet
Or that they are desperate for sales and can cut prices of their GPUs because they are using GF for which they are contractually obligated to produce a certain number of wafers per year or get fined. In any case, a GPU's price has nothing to do with yiedls, its all down to the value the market is willing to pay for the card. I also don't see how yields on a 220mm chip have any bearing on a larger chip.
we can agree to disagree on this, when you have a 200mm² chip going against a 300mm² one with a price difference of 350% for the 1080, and 200% for the 1070, to me thats a damn clear indication to yields and cost, you could argue about margins, but even then doesnt justify that difference, let alone taking up a shield to defend a company ripping off ppl this way, 200mm² could be the sweet spot for AMD as i said without amazing yields and very low cost, or nvidia pushed size too high at 300mm² and had crappy yields and high cost.
AMD chose that chip size de to costs which is why the GP106 is similar.
I would dam well hope that AMD have a new architecture by 2018.
the spec difference between 470 and 480 to me hides more than that, i just see navi background on it.
yes i hope navi comes with new architecture, but knowing AMD i expect a recycle of polaris to mgpu on navi.
I didn't say AMD's strategy isn't smart, but it is only smart when considering there must be some external or internal factors that are preventing a complete lineup. It is very obvious not a choice AMD would want to make, let Nvidia have a free reign of the highly profitable high end for the next 5-8 months they may have had no choice in the mater, and thus the strategy to focus on mainstream cards is quite obvious.
Their entire strategy will depend on Polaris being significantly better than GP106 such that they can take market share away from nvidia in this segment.I don't see that really being the case based on the known performance and efficiency of Pascal. 470 and 480 cards might still have an edge in price-performance but it wont be so large as to create a massive surge in AMD market share. A lot will simply depend on how Nvidia ant to play it out, GP106 is gong to be slightly cheaper to make and Nvidia have enough positive cash-flow to let 1060 margins creep downwards. Whether they want to or not is a different mater. The last major price wars between AMD and Nvidia were great for consumers but bad for the companies
ofc AMD have external reasons for choosing this route (thats how every company plan their strategy), and one of the obvious ones is money, but this route just happens to be more beneficial for them right now, but you are trying to make it sound like AMD has 0 control, that they didnt chose it but forced on them with lack of money, bad yield, bad achitecture, bad planing, bad timing, perfect competitor...blablabla
if 480 turns out as fast as we hope, like 980 or nano, GP 106 might not be up to that performance to compete, and would be more around 470 performance, nvidia might need a further cutdown on GP 104 to make a 1060Ti.
