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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199
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That is a system build pricing for upgrading a gpu on a system. So i would ignore it as it doesnt reflect retail price at all just how much more on top of the 730gt i think it was to get a better card in the system they make.
I already linked this last night. So we don't know it is true or not yet.
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So the 480 8GB is supposed to be 230 dollars and the gtx1070 is around 60% more expensive as per MSRP. Is it looking like its going to be 60% faster? No. TPU said 20-30% faster and he's pretty reliable.
Dont bring online prices and twist the equation. The card has not been released yet so you can only compare MSRP at the moment.
47.9% MSRP difference if you go by $. That CF benchmark wasn't much more than a 1070. I hope it isn't the case. Less than 2 weeks now, fingers crossed AMD do deliver.
Ok.
Since plenty of people still dont understanding this:
Crossfire scaling has NOTHING to do with hardware(for the most part). You can get an app that gets 0% scaling from multi-GPU, 10%, 30%, 50%, 60%, 70%, 90% or even 95% or so. It is ALL about the software when it comes down to this.
So an artificial benchmark's multi-GPU results are worthless. Absolutely meaningless. All it does is show how good the scaling is for that very specific benchmark and says nothing about how it'd perform in something else, which again, would be entirely dependent on its own scaling potential.
I'm really growing disillusioned with this obsession over artificial benchmarks in general. I get that they are convenient in that they provide a quick and easy 'standard' measure to compare, but as with any game, no one single app is entirely representative. What matters is a variety of *actual* games. Games people will actually be buying and playing.
One 1070 every day, all day.
You obviously dont understand if you think it's an argument of "if it scaled like that on current leaks".
It could scale by 10000% on one artificial benchmark, but it'd have nothing to do with how it'll scale in actual gaming situations. And that is going to be basically randomly variable. Totally unpredictable, with a very good chance there is absolutely ZERO scaling at all. And if it does have a decent scaling percentage, it still stands a super high chance of having an extremely shaky frametime delivery, meaning that even though average framerate is high, actual performance consistency is low and stuttery.
Again, it has nothing to do with hardware, and everything to do with whether software supports it or not, and how well it supports it. This is an extremely case-by-case basis. Meaning how it scales in an artificial benchmark is 100% meaningless.
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Well I remain entirely unconvinced of that based on your previous response.
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480 - $230
1070 - $370
$140/230 = 60.8% more
CF benches? You don't know the scaling. Id trust w1zzard more than silly and most probably faked leaked benches and i do believe it will be around 20-30% slower. The specifications also point towards something similar.
it's 379$ not 370$ so it's 65% more.
but in reality it's more like 75%, there is no 379$ 1070, average price is 400$.
but honestly you should go by reference price since he was talking about crossfire, so blower fans, 229$ against 449$, that rounds up to 96% more
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AMD should not rely on multi GPU performance to beat the competition, it should be competitive single GPU performance and price or bust imo. Crossfire/Sli are just not without issues, if there were no issues at all with them then great, but that's not the case.
Well they are going to be bringing Vega later down the line. This is just their small-medium die.
Also they have implied they're going for many-smaller-dies in future (so multi gpu on an interposer). And in theory they can make this work really well with DX12 and Vulkan.
But we'll only know for sure if things are going that way if/when a generation of consoles starts using 2 or more gpus.
If AMD want to go crossfire route to combat the 1080 then ok fine but it works both ways and nvidia can happily show a slide of sli 1080s with the statement like "ok so amd can match kinda with 2 480s but lets see how many to beat 2 1080s in sli actually scratch that lets do 4 way sli in firestrike, beat that mofos" lol
they will have vega 11 for the 1080, and vega 10 for the Titan, mgpu, is mostly for 10-7nm node, couple years down the road.
