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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

I was actually trying to remind humbug what his standards are for an RX480-priced card. He's willing to go up to £250 for those. I'm worried though that even Nvidia may disappoint him...

I was willing to pay upto £300 for a performance upgrade on my current card.

Gibbo confirmed the 480 is not, so yes I may wait a while see if the 1070 comes down in price.

I'm in no rush :)
 
Your pricing is way out.
The exact performance is unknown but you're using the best-case scenario from all the leaks.

Call me a hater, but you're setting yourself and others up for disappointment.

The cards aren't going to be as cheap as you think. Gibbo has hinted that OcUK at least are prepared to sell above MSRP.

And no, I'm not an nV fan. Their new cards have driven up prices to the detriment of us all.

no my pricing is spot on, because first as i said AMD started shipping way ahead of release so they wont be flying the cards in, and rather go with regular shipping, overall cost would be within 5% if you add a 5% markup on top of the MSRP you still get the 4Go at exactly 179£ and the 8Go at 205£ which most retailer will drop to 199£, retailer can even work with AMD and AIBs to share the extra 5£ cost if the retailer isn't satisfied with 2-3% markup, simply because 199£ have much bigger impact than 205£ by going under the 200£ wall.
if stock and shipping was done the same way as the 10 series i would expect gouging, but not with polaris launch.
performance wise im not setting myself to disapointement i am being extremly cautious, the only difference is i do not hate AMD nor have an innate wish for them to fail, i am not delusional, i am just pragmatic.
i dont let myself be drawn by hype or overwhelming direction of some posts, my analysis is pretty straight forward to how AMD would place their product performance and price wise, before AMD droped the 199$ price tag i was the only one suggesting that AMD was going for a very agressive price point, while ppl were telling me i am delusional and they still need margins.
i have very little doubt that polaris is a terrific GPU that AMD spawned, i also have no doubt that their control of the price on the retailer front will be agressive, not just because of the symbolic aspect of it, but because they are taking risk with polaris, their strategy is to take market share, and sure as hell they wont jeopardize that by letting retailer ruin their entire strategy.
even ocUK wont be able to stay away from 199£ offerings for more than a week, this assuming they dont have at least 1 or 2 models at that price, competition will force them down, because the price is too close to 199£, and no retailer would take 3% markup over a price wall 199£ over 205£.
 
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He has not tested the card, so he doesn't know the performance level.

Lol, of course he does.

You think retailers don't know the performance when they put in an order of several thousand?

You think he's signed an NDA (he has) but still doesn't know any more than we do?

Get real! Gibbo will know pretty clearly how these perform. You just don't place an order for several thousand cards if you have no idea if you can sell them afterwards.
 
I was willing to pay upto £300 for a performance upgrade on my current card.

Gibbo confirmed the 480 is not
He's not said that at all. And you know it.

Stop acting like some shell-shocked soldier who cant think straight. You understand what's going on. Stop pretending you dont. It's getting ****ing old.
 
He has not tested the card, so he doesn't know the performance level.


That's not what he told me, and he has also said he has been to 480 vendors and seen them for himself.

He said later on that he has not tested the card himself but was equally adamant its up to a 980 and overclocked would not get even close to a stock 980TI.

Its pretty clear. :)
 
Scrams 980Ti is running 1353MHz default clocks and higher clocked VRAM. His 980Ti looks like an AIB factory overclocked edition (he can correct me if I'm wrong).
 
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I was willing to pay upto £300 for a performance upgrade on my current card.

Gibbo confirmed the 480 is not, so yes I may wait a while see if the 1070 comes down in price.

I'm in no rush :)

Wait, he says it's not a match for a 980Ti and you think that means it can't possibly be better than a 970? :o There is a fair gap between those two things.

In any case, you not wanting it doesn't make it a bad card, just not the segment you're looking for.
 
That's not what he told me, and he has also said he has been to 480 vendors and seen them for himself.

He said later on that he has not tested the card himself but was equally adamant its up to a 980 and overclocked would not get even close to a stock 980TI.

Its pretty clear. :)

NDA humbug ...he will know for sure what the card can do
but will not say it exactly on this forum due to the NDA...he stated the info is all-ready out there with the leaks so forth or there about
 
Wait, he says it's not a match for a 980Ti and you think that means it can't possibly be better than a 970? :o There is a fair gap between those two things.

In any case, you not wanting it doesn't make it a bad card, just not the segment you're looking for.

Just means its not a great clocker, also doesn't necessarily mean its a bad clocker.

They key is "up to a 980", so between a 970 and a 980, or that would be a 390.

That's just not a good card, its, well, rubbish.

It doesn't really mater, luckily AMD are not the only GPU vendor.

I think Nvidia can smash that easily with the 1060 but I may just save up enough to get the 1070.
 
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Lol, of course he does.

You think retailers don't know the performance when they put in an order of several thousand?

You think he's signed an NDA (he has) but still doesn't know any more than we do?

Get real! Gibbo will know pretty clearly how these perform. You just don't place an order for several thousand cards if you have no idea if you can sell them afterwards.

i would expect 8pack to know, but not Gibbo, who is still more of a marketing guy, he would run it to see basic stuff, to see noise, temps, stability etc, but i doubt he have time to spend OC it and benching it to see the extent of the performance, or go through the new features.
he knows more than us, but not that much more.
 
I can't believe what I'm reading.

You don't think Gibbo knows the perf of this card by now? Amazing.

He handles various contracts and is responsible for placing vast orders with AMD and partners. He's not just "marketing". And you don't think he knows what he's buying?

/boggle
 
So he doesn't know the performance level of the card.

* Sits on thousands of 480s in his warehouse
* Doesn't open a single one to check it out

Yep, definitely sounds like something he would do :rolleyes:
Even if he hasn't tested one personally, he's seen one in action. It's pretty much guaranteed.
 
I can't believe what I'm reading.

You don't think Gibbo knows the perf of this card by now? Amazing.

He handles various contracts and is responsible for placing vast orders with AMD and partners. He's not just "marketing". And you don't think he knows what he's buying?

/boggle

im pretty sure he can read both our posts, he can jump in whenever he likes to correct me.
 
Just means its not a great clocker, also doesn't necessarily mean its a bad clocker.

They key is "up to a 980", so between a 970 and a 980, or that would be a 390.

That's just not a good card, its, well, rubbish.

It doesn't really mater, luckily AMD are not the only GPU vendor.

I think Nvidia can smash that easily with the 1060 but I may just save up enough to get the 1070.

1070 is a great card all be it on the expensive side at the minute.

Have to see what the rx 480 brings. If it is true that 2 480's in crossfire match 1080 performance then that isnt great.

That would still be less than 980 performance. Considering you can get a new 980 nowadays for £300.

Not that great at all if the rx 480 price is anywhere close to that.

Not saying this in a bad way but a 1060 at £250 with better than 980 peformance is likely from nvidia soon enough.
 
im pretty sure he can read both our posts, he can jump in whenever he likes to correct me.

Would you run a business like that? Would you place an order for thousands of products before knowing if you could even sell them?

If you would, you sure wouldn't be around as long as OcUK has been around.
 
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