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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

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The article is pure click bait, unless they have a time machine and even then it is still click bait, but with a doc brown twist. :)

Lol, what a joke of an article.

Hoping for some actual interesting leaks soon.
 

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System Requirements
WATTAGE: 275W

Thats exactly what is says it is, power consumption, power consumption is not TDP. TDP is not power consumption.

One is how much power the thing uses the other is minimum thermal dissipation requirements. that can be set at anything above the power requirements, typically the ceiling of how much power it can or will draw, in Fury-X thats 375 Watts

This is basic stuff, you should know this.
 
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Thats exactly what is says it is, power consumption, power consumption is not TDP. TDP is not power consumption.

One is how much power the thing uses the other is minimum thermal dissipation requirements. that can be set at anything above the power requirements.

This is basic stuff, you should know this.

I certainly do ^^^
Heat output in watt is a direct conversion of power consumption in watts.
A 375 Watt card has a minimum 375 watt TDP rating. Fury-X is a 375 watt card

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What are you not understanding there?

1 watt in power draw is 1 watt in heat, its simple.

You said TDP is linked to power draw (which it isn't but the 2 are usually put together) but now you are saying it isn't. I think you are confusing yourself on this.

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Just found this to help you out.

 
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You said TDP is linked to power draw (which it isn't but the 2 are usually put together) but now you are saying it isn't. I think you are confusing yourself on this.

Physics, you use one 1 watt of energy its converted into 1 watt of heat.

TDP is a measure of the recommended cooling solution to dissipate that energy, a TDP rating is typically higher than the energy (watts) used.

With a TDP of 300 Watts 'for example' the add in board partner knows to use a cooler with the minimum heat dissipation power of 300 watts, or 600 watts if he wants it to be really good at it.

The TDP is related to power because its a direct conversion, a TDP rating however is not the power consumption as that can be set as desired independently of power consumption.

Thermal Design Power

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I see a lot of people defending AMD saying "they never said this" "they never did that".

For example "AMD never said what part of the market they wanted to target with the 480". But we can infer from the name it was meant to be faster than the 390, a 3 year old arch. Given the shrink and new arch, a lot faster. It's supposed to be a mid-range part but being slower than last gen's mid-range makes it appear low-end. Perhaps that is why they have tried to cloud the issue by renaming it "RX".

We know exactly what part of the market AMD are targetting with the 480. They're targeting the <£200 section of the market. And nobody is "defending AMD" by claiming that they didn't say which market they were targetting - you seem to be implying that they targeted the high end, failed and then someone is trying to excuse them for that. No, some people are making daft criticisms based on their own unsupported idea that it's supposed to be a 1080 competitor which it never was and we knew that all along.
 
Humbug, the conversion in real life is never 1 to 1 nor would you want it to be.

Actually, when we're talking heat, yes - you do end up with 1 to 1. That's what the second law of thermodynamics is about (Entropy increases, heat death of the universe, etc.). You're referencing that you can never have a 100% efficient system. Well that's true if you're talking about work done, but heat IS the inefficiency that you're saying you can't rule out.

Yeah, a full two pages of arguments with that already.

I know. But I figured you would like to know that someone else understood what you're saying. TDP and power draw are both measured in watts, but they are not the same thing.
 
Actually, when we're talking heat, yes - you do end up with 1 to 1. That's what the second law of thermodynamics is about (Entropy increases, heat death of the universe, etc.). You're referencing that you can never have a 100% efficient system. Well that's true if you're talking about work done, but heat IS the inefficiency that you're saying you can't rule out.



I know. But I figured you would like to know that someone else understood what you're saying. TDP and power draw are both measured in watts, but they are not the same thing.

I do, Appreciated :)
 
I see a lot of people defending AMD saying "they never said this" "they never did that".

For example "AMD never said what part of the market they wanted to target with the 480". But we can infer from the name it was meant to be faster than the 390, a 3 year old arch. Given the shrink and new arch, a lot faster. It's supposed to be a mid-range part but being slower than last gen's mid-range makes it appear low-end. Perhaps that is why they have tried to cloud the issue by renaming it "RX".

they couldn't be more clear about it, unless they give you straight forward benchmarks, they said they want to target performance and mainstream, if that wasn't clear they said they want VR minimum requirement(290/970 4Go) at a lower price point.
now the point is not figuring out what was the target, but how high than that, does it just deliver 970 and call it a day or pushes a bit higher.
and you want ppl to claim that AMD said or did stuff and not be corrected when wrong ?
 
I certainly do ^^^
Heat output in watt is a direct conversion of power consumption in watts.
A 375 Watt card has a minimum 375 watt TDP rating. Fury-X is a 375 watt card
But that's assuming they've set the TDP at the lowest value they can.

You acknowledged that the cards power consumption was 275 Watts, and by thermodynamics wattage in is the heat produced. So either AMD has lied about the typical power consumption or the TDP it has isn't actually the absolute minimum amount of thermal dissipation needed.

Unless you're defining a 375 watt card to be a card with a TDP of 375.
(If that is the case then fair enough because it's just semantics).
 
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Don't know if this has been posted, I am taking it with a big spoon of salt, but maybe they broke their NDA not sure.
or just click baiting either way.

http://neurogadget.net/2016/06/07/amd-polaris-r9-490-vs-gtx-1080-powerful-difference/32453

i think the guy was drunk, or his account hacked, or he knows absolutely nothing about graphics, the article doesnt make sense from start to end, not just the mention of 490, but the way he compares the card by game requirement.
 
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