Radiator question Swiftech H20Apex Ultra Plus Watercooling Kit)

Just been reading the instructions and it states that the radiator when installed upsidedown can lead to air filling up the circuit.

I notice Andy you have yours upsidedown have you noticed any problems.
Ideally I do not want to drill holes in my case if I can help it and pass the tubing through the bottom of the pci slots.

The pci will have to be cut mind due to the width of the supplied tubing.

I'm a bit overwhelmed TBH :eek: but looking forward to it too :D

I will take a pic to show you what I mean of suggested res position and pump position any feedback great as always :)
 
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easyrider said:
Just been reading the instructions and it states that the radiator when installed upsidedown can lead to air filling up the circuit.

I notice Andy you have yours upsidedown have you noticed any problems.
Ideally I do not want to drill holes in my case if I can help it and pass the tubing through the bottom of the pci slots.

The pci will have to be cut mind due to the width of the supplied tubing.

I'm a bit overwhelmed TBH :eek: but looking forward to it too :D

I will take a pic to show you what I mean of suggested res position and pump position any feedback great as always :)
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It doesn't really matter what direction you have a radiator mounted, you can always get it bled through somehow. It'll just involve some tilting of the case, lying it on it's side, upside down etc. Once all the air is gone, it's gone for good :)
 
Much better to bleed the rad before attaching it to the case imo..easier to shake rattle and roll :)
 
Dont all start pulling each others hair out but it seams odd to me that its best to blow air onto the fins of an air cooled system but your saying that pulling the air through on a Rad is better.
Again dont all start throwing handbags but does anybody had comparisons/results (not that im doubting).
 
It's not always better to blow air onto fins in air-cooling. Alpha's blocks were designed to have the fan sucking air up through the heatsink. The critical factor for Alpha's design was a shroud effect around the top of the heatsink forcing the air to enter near the base and pass over all the heatsink.

For any fan/rad combination, it is best to use a shroud between the two.
 
easyrider said:
Just been reading the instructions and it states that the radiator when installed upsidedown can lead to air filling up the circuit.

I notice Andy you have yours upsidedown have you noticed any problems.
Ideally I do not want to drill holes in my case if I can help it and pass the tubing through the bottom of the pci slots.

The pci will have to be cut mind due to the width of the supplied tubing.

I'm a bit overwhelmed TBH :eek: but looking forward to it too :D

I will take a pic to show you what I mean of suggested res position and pump position any feedback great as always :)
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If the loop has a reservoir it acts as an "air trap" and thus, no problem.

AndyOcUK
 
Just about to mount my rad at the back of the case on the rad box.

I already have a exhaust fan 120 mm fan at the back sucking hot air out of the case.

If I have the fans sucking through the rad wont it conflict with the exhaust fan sucking out of the case?

Or shall I just get rid of the exhaust fan all together?
 
Because the heat from the cpu has already been removed from the caes, the case temp wil be significantly lower than before so the exhaust air should be coller than previously. Personally I removed my exhaust fan.
 
bit of a noob question...

Does the tubeing have to go right over thae barb then right up to the nut?

And is this where i clamp it ot do i clamp around the barb itself?

I'm finding it really difficult to get it right up flush to the nut
:o
 
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MikeTimbers said:
Because the heat from the cpu has already been removed from the caes, the case temp wil be significantly lower than before so the exhaust air should be coller than previously. Personally I removed my exhaust fan.
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I left my ehaust fan in. As mike says, the cpu heat is already on its way to the radiator before it gets chance to dissapate into the case.

See my pics earlier on this thread. It seems to work very well.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, try it for yourself and see which is best for your rig.

Best Regards

AndyOcUK
 
it is best to have the fan sucking air from the rad


| Rad | fan | --->

or have 2 fans sucking air out either side if you have there is space.

reminds me of the days i had the mountain mods case, i wish i still had that case :(
 
easyrider said:
bit of a noob question...

Does the tubeing have to go right over thae barb then right up to the nut?

And is this where i clamp it ot do i clamp around the barb itself?

I'm finding it really difficult to get it right up flush to the nut
:o
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The clamp goes in the narrower section between the taper and the nut, keep the tubing past the width of the clamp and you won't go wrong.
 
easyrider said:
do i clamp around the barb itself?

I'm finding it really difficult to get it right up flush to the nut
:o
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Get your mums/sisters.girlfriends/wifes hairdryer out and heat the hose up, it'll stretch over the barb MUCH easier that way :)
 
Bundles said:
Get your mums/sisters.girlfriends/wifes hairdryer out and heat the hose up, it'll stretch over the barb MUCH easier that way :)
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Dipped in bioling water in the end

rads in place and pump and res

just need to connect the cpu and i'm off :)

How do i short a 24 pin psu to start the pump going?

p.s i must thank you all for your help up to now ;)
 
Put a loop of wire or a paper clip between a green and black wire on the ATX block, here is a 20 pin I did, 24 will be similar but with the extra 2 rows to the right:

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Ive shorted that wire and conected the pump and my fan controller.

However when I click the on switch at the back of the psu the pump starts and the fan controller then it just cuts out.

What
am I doing wrong? :confused:
 
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