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RDNA 3 rumours Q3/4 2022
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Soldato
The 3090Ti's $2k price tag wasn't supported by the market once mining profitability tanked. I think Nvidia noticed how people voted.
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I can't help but wonder if the bubble will burst with nvidia with price and energy increases there has to be a point where people say "nope". I mean in a few years time we'll be looking at 1000W gpu's? The present trajectory is unsustainable long term it has to be, the risk of squeezing that bubble so hard is that it'll pop
Which is one thing nvidia won't do they'll limit supply of new cards before they even think of dropping prices on old stock
If we can map out global distribution of sales to energy prices then we can have a look - I expect if most sales are happening in countries with cheap electric then there's no pressure in that regard. Even in Europe with higher prices the actual contribution price-wise is pretty minor (cf the depreciation of tech asset price), there's more of an idealogical reason to cut power usage. (Not to mention other consequences of power draw such as temps/noise etc. etc.)
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Apparently Nvidia still have stacks of Ampere they need to sell, a years worth.
But they don't want to drop prices on them, so thier strategy is make the RTX 4000 series really expensive and sell Ampere along side them.
But they don't want to drop prices on them, so thier strategy is make the RTX 4000 series really expensive and sell Ampere along side them.
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Yup, good luck with that **** Nvidia!! You're gonna need it
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maybe Jensen can move to a silicon jacket as there seems to be a surplus
Soldato
I also wonder how many of them own a PS5. But keep it a secret. Like a dirty love child. Having to box it away hurriedly if someone visits. It was just the one time honest! It meant nothing!I see the resident Nvidia fanboys are already busy talking themselves into their RTX 4090 purchase.
Yes, I think the other factor in this decision must be the fact that, if you look at the up and coming PC gaming release catalogue for 2022 and the first half of 2023, there is little in there to suggest that the masses will need all the performance that is on the table. The only left-field possibility is Starfield and that may not appear until the end of March at the earliest. It would be a shrewd move by AMD to keep the reference cards cool and efficient.*Rumour*
AMD's strategy is to go super efficient, reference models will be less than 375 watts and more than 300 watts. >350 watts?
They will allow board partners to clock them to the moon and in that way let them deal with the heat and potential warranty problems, as far as reference cards goes they want them to be inexpensive and not hot.
The reasoning is in a recension and a market about to be flooded with used cards they don't want to be trying to push very high cost high power consumption cards, they also think top end Nvidia cards will be super expensive and have very high power consumption as their attitude is win win win at any cost and AMD are quite happy to sit back and watch Nvidia win with 4 slot mega money cards, AMD figure that will help AMD shake off the "hot cards" mind virus of past generations and have cards that are sensible at a cost to performance ratio.
In other words AMD want to look like the grown-ups, while at the same time letting AIB's involve themselves in a performance war with Nvidia.
IMO that's very smart.
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To touch upon this, the only game on PC I am gonna get in future is the new WoW expansion and maybe overwatch 2 but thats free to play when its released.
Everything else is console exclusive or coming to console first and lets face it, PS5 and Xbox series X are really good, most peoples systems are still weaker then those consoles.
I only intend to upgrade the GPU so can play in 4K or hook it up to my 4K TV one way or another.
The release schedule for games for the PS5 for the remainder of this year has me swamped.
Caporegime
Its more about cost, cards that are clocked to the limit need beefy power rails and huge coolers, that makes them expensive, let Nvidia's board partners deal with all that noise, eh?
I'm sure the fact that they use the coolers they design for Nvidia's hot power hungry cards for AMD's efficient cards too makes Jenson really happy.
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Soldato
There is some bonus to that ^. When brands like Gigabyte slap on the same cooler design onto an AMD board you should have some overkill cooling! The problem with this excessive engineering is the number of slots it takes up. Some of the AIB's should be trying for slimmer models.
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So either they are cooler and quieter or if they have smaller coolers and still be cool and quiet.
Both ways its a win, it makes AMD's cards look good in reviews or AIB's prefer working with AMD as they can actually make some money on their cards by using less expensive power rails and coolers.
Soldato
I am looking forward to AMD's chiplet approach for GPU's. This could be a game-changer.
Caporegime
IMO one of the problems for Nvidia board partners is Jenson's need to win at any cost with less efficient GPU's designs.
The rumour is Nvidia's halo card will win the performance crown but at a cost of anything up to 600 watts, AMD are sticking to around 350 watt and they wont win, but they will still be really fast.
Now Nvidia are going to tell their board partners to use 24 phase power rails and 4 slot 3KG coolers, which is going to cost them a small fortune to make, in a global recession with energy costs spiralling out of control.
The rumour is Nvidia's halo card will win the performance crown but at a cost of anything up to 600 watts, AMD are sticking to around 350 watt and they wont win, but they will still be really fast.
Now Nvidia are going to tell their board partners to use 24 phase power rails and 4 slot 3KG coolers, which is going to cost them a small fortune to make, in a global recession with energy costs spiralling out of control.
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Soldato
Not that I am a ray tracing nut, but if RDNA3 can close the gap to Ada's performance (we know they will be there for rasterisation) on ray tracing, I will be watching. A cooler, efficient card performing close to nvidia's equivalent may be tempting enough when sales offer the best prices due to people holding off this gen. Should be realistic with mining off the cards and scalpers less able to capitalise on the situation.
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