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really getting fed up with the posts stating RTX/DLSS does not work this gen

weldon855 said:
be alright as long as nothing moves in the game. there is so much noise or maybe the videos are just crap.
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Seems to be a mixture of both - the compression doesn't seem to handle the noise very well and is compounding it and there is definitely some noise and temporal artefacts from the path tracing process - more than I was expecting given what they've managed to achieve with updates to Quake 2 RTX.
 
TNA said:
Yeah, I give up on him. Apparently wanting accurate labeling makes no sense and he does not get it, so not point me wasting my time replying to him. All he can do is strawman at this point which is as good as admitting he lost the argument as far as I am concerned.

What made me laugh most about his post was arriving to the conclusion that what Grim5 did was a win somehow, when all he managed to do was embarrass himself by applying FXAA to the native image when comparing to DLSS. Apparently he "tricked us", when you can look back and see I actually said the imaged looked like it had FXAA on it, turns out I was right! Lol.
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I have no problem with accurate labelling. What gave you that idea?

I have asked you to me show me these reviews that don't have labels or don't mention somewhere in the review the settings they used. As you said TPU was refreshing because it was labelled. So, how many reviews did you read? There must have been a lot of these bad reviews since March the 23rd for you to get so worked up about this "Issue" since then.

The whole point of Grim's thing went straight over your head didn't it? It was a experiment to catch those people who were hating on DLSS just because it was from Nvidia. The fact you think Grim embarrassed himself proves that it went over your head. Before he did the test some People were comparing screen shots and saying that DLSS 2.0 looked worse than Native with FXAA and that DLSS was crap. The Native images that Grim used were supposed to have FXAA applied, it wasn't an accident, That's why he did it to show up these people. The neutral people weren't caught out, it wasn't meant to catch them out. You pointing out that images looked like there was FXAA applied wasn't that clever. It was very obvious that was the case. But, the people hating on DLSS 2.0 were caught out, because they were so quick to point out how good the native image looked even though that was actually the DLSS image. It showed their bias.
 
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Howling said:
So, from what I can gather; TNA wants accurate labelling - and you want.... I'm not sure what you want? It doesn't even look like you're trying to convert him to the church of nVidia - just incessantly picking a fight :? Would it perhaps be wise to just drop it and move on ?
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Why would I convert him to the church of anything? I am neither AMD or Nvidia biased. Well, actually that's lie, I do prefer AMD.

Just trying to find out why he has this crusade going now? Because, my point is that there is no problem. Most Reviewers are accurately labelling things.
 
melmac said:
I have no problem with accurate labelling. What gave you that idea?

I have asked you to me show me these reviews that don't have labels or don't mention somewhere in the review the settings they used. As you said TPU was refreshing because it was labelled. So, how many reviews did you read? There must have been a lot of these bad reviews since March the 23rd for you to get so worked up about this "Issue" since then.

The whole point of Grim's thing went straight over your head didn't it? It was a experiment to catch those people who were hating on DLSS just because it was from Nvidia. The fact you think Grim embarrassed himself proves that it went over your head. Before he did the test some People were comparing screen shots and saying that DLSS 2.0 looked worse than Native with FXAA and that DLSS was crap. The Native images were supposed to have FXAA applied, it wasn't an accident, That's why he did it to show up these people. The neutral people weren't caught out, it wasn't meant to catch them out. You pointing out that images looked like there was FXAA applied wasn't that clever. It was very obvious that was the case. But, the people hating on DLSS 2.0 were caught out, because they were so quick to point out how good the native image looked even though that was actually the DLSS image. It showed their bias.
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Oh wow, lol. Geez... :o

As I said to Howling, waste of time time replying to you, so this will be my last, feel free to carry on.
 
TNA said:
Oh wow, lol. Geez... :o

As I said to Howling, waste of time time replying to you, so this will be my last, feel free to carry on.
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Likewise. Why did I waste my time? I mean you think the phrase compared to Native is dishonest and marketing trickery when for the first time since DLSS has been released, it's actually completely accurate.

As I said, I am completely baffled.

PS. Thanks for taking the time to link all of those reviews that annoyed you. It's terrible when they don't label things. I wanted to read a few just so I could get the same sense of outrage!!
 
Gregster said:
That's exactly how I see it!
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It's been an amazing turnaround for the technology. Honestly thought it was dead in the water and it has been just another stunt by Nvidia to get people to buy their cards. But, they turned it around and it's close to been as good as I hoped it was going to be when I read all about it before Turing released.
 
This guy. Lol. What outrage?

Did I think DLSS sucked on release? Check.
Did I make an accurate assessment on Grim5’s test by saying the image looked like it had FXAA which it did. I never said anything else? Check.
Have I on many occasions for a long time now said I like DLSS 2.0 and will be buying a RTX 3070? Check.
Melmec seems to have a hard on for me for some reason? Check :p:D
 
TNA said:
This guy. Lol. What outrage?

Did I think DLSS sucked on release? Check.
Did I make an accurate assessment on Grim5’s test by saying the image looked like it had FXAA which it did. I never said anything else? Check.
Have I on many occasions for a long time now said I like DLSS 2.0 and will be buying a RTX 3070? Check.
Melmec seems to have a hard on for me for some reason? Check :p:D
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Maybe you need to give them your last Rollo.

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TNA said:
This guy. Lol. What outrage?

Did I think DLSS sucked on release? Check.
Did I make an accurate assessment on Grim5’s test by saying the image looked like it had FXAA which it did. I never said anything else? Check.
Have I on many occasions for a long time now said I like DLSS 2.0 and will be buying a RTX 3070? Check.
Melmec seems to have a hard on for me for some reason? Check :p:D
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Bud, you need to chill a bit. You clearly see things as you see but others have a fair point and a valid point at times. Life is good and no need to be so argumentitive :)
 
Gregster said:
Bud, you need to chill a bit.
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Lol Gregsetr buddy. Me chill out? I am perfectly chilled.

Gregster said:
You clearly see things as you see but others have a fair point and a valid point at times.
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Agreed, this is why I am puzzled with the responses I am getting from melmac. You are right we do see things differently as from what I and even Howling can see it is not me being the aggressive one.

In fact it is me who is the one who is trying to step away from it all, but melmac is being relentless and just wants to carry on for some reason. It is like I said or did something personal to hurt him :p

Gregster said:
Life is good and no need to be so argumentitive :)
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We agree once again, but this should have once again been geared towards melmec, not me. I am not the one twisting things ;)

Still perfectly chilled by the way :D


Howling said:
Odd who you choose to respond to on this :p
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Now I wonder what would make you say that? :D:D:D
 
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