So civilian lives in the ME don't matter as long we can get cheap goods from China.
Millions of people around the world marching for peace and we start a new war.
Red Sea / Houthi rebels situation
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Millions of people around the world marching for peace and we start a new war.
Iran has been trying to hijack oil tankers and shipping (in international waters) for years. It's been on TV documentaries like "Warship". The Houthis' are armed and backed by Iran. The real Yemeni government support this action and quite obviously want rid of the Houthis'. As has already been said, they aren't just attacked OUR Navy, it isn't Yemen we are targeting and this isn't just about shipping to Israel (which is what they said it is).
It's quite right we have in the past gotten involved in things in the middle east when we should not have, however when you have countries attacking shipping that half the world depend on for Oil supplies and goods in international waters.. then someone must act. And as usual since the US and UK are one of the very few countries that has any ability these days to do anything more than a few hundred miles away from home.. we have.
We haven't hit civilians, we've hit the Houthi's supplies. The Houthis do not equal Yemeni's.
We haven't started a war but it feels very much like Iran wants to start one.
It isn't just our goods, it's half the worlds goods and oil and gas, and the ability to freely travel in international waters. That means something.
It's quite right we have in the past gotten involved in things in the middle east when we should not have, however when you have countries attacking shipping that half the world depend on for Oil supplies and goods in international waters.. then someone must act. And as usual since the US and UK are one of the very few countries that has any ability these days to do anything more than a few hundred miles away from home.. we have.
We haven't hit civilians, we've hit the Houthi's supplies. The Houthis do not equal Yemeni's.
We haven't started a war but it feels very much like Iran wants to start one.
It isn't just our goods, it's half the worlds goods and oil and gas, and the ability to freely travel in international waters. That means something.
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Soldato
I notice you didn't answer the first bit...
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Ugh, Rishi on a war footing going in to an election year. Fantastic.
Trump lauded the assassination of Soleimani going into an election year, and here we are on this side of the pond antagonising Iran going into an election year.
Trump lauded the assassination of Soleimani going into an election year, and here we are on this side of the pond antagonising Iran going into an election year.
Has Piers Morgan entered the chat? You want me to condemn the Houthis before you'll engage?
The Houthis want Israel to stop bombing Gaza, so they start bombing ships. The US\UK want the Houthis to stop, so they start bombing them. Where does it stop?
Soldato
There is bombing, then there is bombing.
On the night of 9/10 March 1945, the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) conducted a devastating firebombing raid on Tokyo, the Japanese capital city. This attack was code-named Operation Meetinghouse by the USAAF and is known as the Great Tokyo Air Raid in Japan.[1] Bombs dropped from 279 Boeing B-29 Superfortress heavy bombers burned out much of eastern Tokyo. More than 90,000 and possibly over 100,000 Japanese people were killed, mostly civilians, and one million were left homeless, making it the most destructive single air attack in human history. The Japanese air and civil defenses proved largely inadequate; 14 American aircraft and 96 airmen were lost.
I'm not sure having the ability to cause more death and destruction is something to be proud of. I'm not saying you are.
That doesn't mean the US told us to. If you disrupt UK shipping interests then you can expect the UK military to get involved. We're quite experienced at ensuring our ships can get to our Island.
Soldato
There have been reports of both those scenarios (and continues to be so)
You probably read two different reports and assumed they were the same thing.
Ofc breaking news often gets rewritten as more and or information is clarified.
Caporegime
The Houthis ****** around and now they're about to find out.
We still have the problem of Iran playing puppet master, but good luck to anyone who wants to engage with them.
We still have the problem of Iran playing puppet master, but good luck to anyone who wants to engage with them.
Why didn't they get involved during Brexit
The UK always follows the lead of the US at any UN votes.
There’s always one
Soldato
Wow, you're a proper troll bot. Any other unrelated gems you can add to this discussion.Why didn't they get involved during Brexit
The UK always follows the lead of the US at any UN votes.
Trump, partygate, HS2, strikes, just stop oil, EV fires?
Ahh, missed one. Weak Joe Biden - of course.
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Jesus christ, throw enough **** something will stick. Do you plan to put any substance behind any of your posts or are you just gonna run around scatter gun approach?Why didn't they get involved during Brexit
The UK always follows the lead of the US at any UN votes.
Houthi's are reaping what they sowed. They have been warned and have decided not to heed those warnings. They are very much in the "Find out" phase.
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Soldato
Same vessel, same news station and same day, although I did turn left at the corner shop, whereas I usually turn right, so it was probably that.
Soldato
Yeah, building up animosity and breeding the next wave of anti-western sentiment...
The animosity and anti-western sentiment is never going away regardless of what we do.
So we should do nothing? Sit by whilst ships are hijacked and supply routes stopped. Let Iran, China etc get even more an impression it can do what it wants because the West is so scared of it's past that it refuses to the do the right thing in isolated circumstances. Right ok.
The Houthis don't care about the Palestinians. Half the middle east sits idly by and does nothing, refuses to take in any of them. They're just using it as an excuse and are acting on behalf of Iran. We know they are supplied by Iran, trained by Iran and are following their tactics.
It stops when the Houthis' stop attacking shipping in international shipping lanes. Perhaps if the intl community had a back bone and helped the Yemeni government out instead of letting them get overthrown in the first place we wouldn't be in this mess. But as we know the UN is gutless (because of Russia, Israel and the US) and won't ever do anything to stop anything. Instead Saudi Arabia has had a go (which the UK arms) and has killed thousands of.. yes Houthi's but also civilians.
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