Way to stereotype. Clearly everyone who has used drugs ever is a druggy...
Ever used Nurofen for a headache?
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Way to stereotype. Clearly everyone who has used drugs ever is a druggy...
Ever used Nurofen for a headache?
Have you missed all the news reports about the astronomical costs imposed upon the NHS as a direct result of alcohol?
Overdosing on alcohol = Hospital, having your stomach pumped, dying from alcohol poisoning or choking on your own vomit.
I seen very many people absolutely CAIN it on various substances, and none of them ended up in hospital. If you indulge like an idiot, you pay the price like an idiot.
Also, lumping heroin, cocaine and ecstasy together is really amateurish, they are all varying degrees of the scale of drugs.
Have you missed my previous post about how many many many more people regularly use alcohol than Class A?
Not to mention, if people have used Class A drugs, they've probably ingested alcohol too - both of which will have had an affect and put them in hospital, although most people will be apprehensive about admitting they have done drugs to hospital staff, so it would be written up as alcohol that is to blame.
Volume of users aside, the percentage of them that end up in AE or with the police due to anti-social behaviour is greater with alcohol (1 legal drug) than all illegal ones combined.
I was using the term "druggy" to define someone who actively partakes in the illegal use of drugs.
But you already knew that, didn't you?
I was using the term "druggy" to define someone who actively partakes in the illegal use of drugs.
But you already knew that, didn't you?
Yes, yes, but it is a provocative phrase used to stir up images of addicts/junkies living in squalor, committing crimes for their next hit, al la Trainspotting.
Do you call anyone who has a drink an alcoholic?
But that's not the point is it? I was talking about the relative dangers of alcohol vs cocaine.
Note: Comparing weekend A&E admittances of alcohol with cocaine, as a measure of danger, isn't relative - because many times more people use alcohol.
I'm comparing percentages, not volumes.
Also, this thread is about MDMA, which by and large has a much lower toxicity than cocaine.
You are considering letting her try MDMA? Are you for real? I don't mean the drugs, I mean the fact you seem to think you have some kind of rights to grant or deny her choices and behaviour. No wonder she thinks you're in a "rut"...
MDMA isn't really habit forming; it's essentially a massive SSRI (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor) and doesn't work so strongly on dopamine receptors. Studies have shown it can have a measurable effect on visuospatial working memory and the central executive with extreme use (several pills a night, several nights a week, for years on end) but the effects are even then rather small in all honesty.
Provided she stays hydrated, doesn't sit in a stifling club bouncing up and down in a bin liner for six hours, and refrains from drinking a few dozen gallons at once, she'll likely just trip her **** off, chat **** for a couple of hours, and want to show the world how much she really, really loves it for a bit. She should also be sure she sources carefully, or rather that her friends do, and that they 'trust' the source. Some unscrupulous street dealers will happily cut pills with everything from ketamine to heroin. If it's actually MDMA (pure powder) rather than ecstasy tablets, that's not really a consideration as much.
But that's definitely not medical advice.
EDIT: Some more information (very detailed, often to clinical level) at Erowid.org - a well regarded informational site.
Just had to second this post. Very good post.
What do i call them then? Drug users?
Oh noes, i guess since i don't call someone who has an alcoholic drink a drug user, i can't
I was using the term "druggy" to define someone who actively partakes in the illegal use of drugs.
But you already knew that, didn't you?
So Mischa Barton isn't attractive? I find it hard to say that anyone who has every used an illegal drug instantly isn't attractive..
What do i call them then? Drug users?
Oh noes, i guess since i don't call someone who has an alcoholic drink a drug user, i can't
Well given that people don't label occasional drinkers, and refers to them as 'someone who drinks', the same should apply to activities. Lest we all be alcoholic sex addicts
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There is nothing wrong with blowing out on some MDMA occasionally.
This thread is an interesting read for me. What I can gather is there is one side, who some, if not all occasionally partake in some chemical enjoyment, and the other side, who are basing their opinions on the news and TV.
I know many people who have a blow out every now and then. They hold down good jobs, are professionals and who run their own businesses. Just because you choose to do that, does not make you a 'druggie' or a bad person. The social acceptance of alcohol compared to certain chemicals is a joke. If alcohol was a recently discovered chemical (and it is a chemical), there would be NO way it would be tolerated.
Where is the totally against MDMA posters who have some real direct life experience to say it is bad?
This thread is an interesting read for me. What I can gather is there is one side, who some, if not all occasionally partake in some chemical enjoyment, and the other side, who are basing their opinions on the news and TV.
I know many people who have a blow out every now and then. They hold down good jobs, are professionals and who run their own businesses. Just because you choose to do that, does not make you a 'druggie' or a bad person. The social acceptance of alcohol compared to certain chemicals is a joke. If alcohol was a recently discovered chemical (and it is a chemical), there would be NO way it would be tolerated.
Where is the totally against MDMA posters who have some real direct life experience to say it is bad?
This.
Although it is in GD which makes it a bit more likely to get extreme views of either end because its fun to rant
Interesting how the parties in question choose to ignore your post like this one once you have blown them out of the water.
Nicely done, I cant stand (illegal) drug users.