Relational issues...

So why does someone doing something that doesn't impact another person generate such hatred from you? Because it's dangerous?

You do know that statistically speaking, riding a hose is more dangerous than doing ecstasy. Do you have an irrational hatred for horse riders as well?

Because the government told me it is dangerous is a poor basis for hatred.

Because (among other things), I have seen first hand the effects of some people on drugs, its far far more disturbing and upredictable than a drunk person in many cases.
 
Fair enough, your opinion. :)

Have you got anything to back up your views? Or do you just assume that that's the way it is?

People who use it recreationally are not that different from people who drink recreationally, skydive recreationally, or mountain bike recreationally. They do it because the enjoy it and the social aspects that often form apart of the activity.

Why exactly do you not respect someone who uses a drug deemed illegal? What about a drug that is legal, but only in a specific country? Someone who smokes weed in the UK is a bad person, but someone who has spent their whole life ni Amsterdam and smokes weed is fine because it is legal there?
 
Because (among other things), I have seen first hand the effects of some people on drugs, its far far more disturbing and upredictable than a drunk person in many cases.

Much like drinking, some people take drugs irresponsibly.


So why not stick to the legal options available then?

Back to my original point.

They are better than alcohol at making you feel good, simples.
 
Because (among other things), I have seen first hand the effects of some people on drugs, its far far more disturbing and upredictable than a drunk person in many cases.

Watch the news, watch the various reality police programs on the TV, alcohol is far more an issue.
 
Watch the news, watch the various reality police programs on the TV, alcohol is far more an issue.

I completely agree, but that doesn't stop drugs being an issue either. If some of them were made legal I would be extremely worried as it would double up with alcohol and be rather bad news.

Have you got anything to back up your views? Or do you just assume that that's the way it is?

People who use it recreationally are not that different from people who drink recreationally, skydive recreationally, or mountain bike recreationally. They do it because the enjoy it and the social aspects that often form apart of the activity.

Why exactly do you not respect someone who uses a drug deemed illegal? What about a drug that is legal, but only in a specific country? Someone who smokes weed in the UK is a bad person, but someone who has spent their whole life ni Amsterdam and smokes weed is fine because it is legal there?

I'm just speaking from my experience, I am in no way stating it as 100% correct in any way, and people are fully entitled to disagree!
 
Because (among other things), I have seen first hand the effects of some people on drugs, its far far more disturbing and upredictable than a drunk person in many cases.

I'm willing to bet I have FAR more first-hand experience than you, and have seem a disproportionate amount of issues arise from just drinking.

As I have stated, I've known dozens of users, and only 2 had anything bad happen to them, and that was down to their own psychological make-up rather than the drugs themselves.

Hell, some people get addicted to porn, it's ruins their lives, losing the partner and possibly children, but as with many things, it is an extreme case and no justification to hate anyone who enjoys a bit of porn.

Have views, by all means, but at least try to be able to back them up a bit better.
 
Or just realise everyone is different and different things affect them differently, so judge on a case by case basis?
 
Sorry, haven't read the whole thread, only the OP's first post.

I've been in a similar situation, although not drugs, and to be honest you don't own her, you have to let her do her own thing.

The choice you have is whether to let her get on with it alone or not.

My gf of the time (now my wife) dumped me and did her own thing for a while, before realising it was a waste of time and we got back together.

I personally couldn't have sayed with her while she was doing what she did but in my case and it seems in yours, she is quite young and a bit immature.

End of the day you need to figure out what you can live with but for me I found it very difficult seeing someone I loved going down a road I didn't/couldn't go down.


I agree with Robboftw regarding influences drugs have, some cases they are worse than alcohol but I've seen both destroy lives.
 
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Sorry, haven't read the whole thread, only the OP's first post.

I've been in a similar situation, although not drugs, and to be honest you don't own her, you have to let her do her own thing.

The choice you have is whether to let her get on with it alone or not.

My gf of the time (now my wife) dumped me and did her own thing for a while, before realising it was a waste of time and we got back together.

I personally couldn't have sayed with her while she was doing what she did but in my case and it seems in yours, she is quite young and a bit immature.

End of the day you need to figure out what you can live with but for me I found it very difficult seeing someone I loved going down a road I didn't/couldn't go down.

Sorry to shut you down, but thread has gone way beyond helping OP now. We are onto the drugs now, hoping to move it to abortion soon though, so please make your posts relevant k thx.
 
How spectacularly ignorant of you.

Yes, it may have been somewhat ignorant :p

I forgot I can't speak from my own experience and have to read cases and pre-empetively anticipate everyone elses experiences before I say anything, sorry about that.
 
This thread has been sidetracked slightly like...

I would like to add something to the cocaine vs alcohol war that's going on. I think it is unfair to bracket all class A,B,C drugs as similiar because they really are not. For example, MDMA, Ketamine, Ganja are very different to cocaine, ok the buzz from cocaine and MDMA is similiar but the way the drug works is completley different i think. MDMA releases serotonin making you the happiest person alive, cocaine and alcohol can be very violent. As for ketamine and ganja....well i dont think any violence is going to be taking place any time soon put it that way!

I would like to see the ratio on alcohol A&E patients compared to drug users, i think you would find the ratio would be a lot higher for alcohol.

Cocaine and so on ARE more dangerous than Alcohol, yes Alcohol is bad if you use it excessively also, but the effects of some illegal drugs can be far more devastating as Gaygle has already explained.

There is a reason they are illegal, anyone using illegal drugs is almost only doing so to 'be cool' and 'rebel against the system'.

I will never have any respect for a person who has taken illegal drugs (some cases may be exceptions), its not big, and its not clever (just like binge drinking isn't either).

Anyway, back on topic ;)

I would love to meet you to be honest...i really want to in some small way curb your view on drugs!
 
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