Rest in peace Keeley Bunker, raped and murdered by 'friend' on walk home...

Predator meets girl on night out, rapes and murders her the following morning = "textbook grooming" :rolleyes:


Did you know the girl, OP?

The Running Man said:
Oh hello here's the defund the police squad come to derail another thread toget it deleted in order to hide the story.
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The guy is currently sitting trial... what's to be hidden?
 
The Running Man said:
Oh hello here's the defund the police squad come to derail another thread toget it deleted in order to hide the story.
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What story? All I see is a sad story about a man who has raped a woman and killed her. Luckily not that many rapists commit murder in the UK. However, 100 women are killed each year on average by their partner or ex partner. That is quite shocking. I presume they must be taking adult grooming to the next level?
 
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I will never understand the mindset of people like this. Decides to rape and murder his friend, shove her body under a bush and just gets on with his day, only to be arrested an hour later. Why? What pushes someone to do such a thing?

Not only has he taken someone's life, but he has instantly thrown away his own too. Do these people somehow think they'll get away with it and no one will find out? Or are they just mentally ill psychopaths who simply do not care about ruining lives and spending most of theirs behind bars? :confused:
 
NVP said:
Predator meets girl on night out, rapes and murders her the following morning = "textbook grooming" :rolleyes:


Did you know the girl, OP?


The guy is currently sitting trial... what's to be hidden?
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Johno please? said:
Her friends must feel terrible, letting your friend walk home with someone they've just met. Awful.
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From how the BBC article is worded, it doesn't appear that the poor girl met this guy on the night in question. Instead, it reads as if they went out on a night out together with a wider circle of friends and there was an agreement for them to both return to Tamworth.

Opening the case, Jacob Hallam QC, told jurors how Ms Bunker had met Mr Streete, of no fixed address, for a night out in Birmingham with a group of friends on 18 September.

He had agreed to walk her home - a 20-minute journey - when they returned to Tamworth at about 04:00 BST the following morning.
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Therefore it sounds as if they knew each other previously and hence the comment in the BBC article that the girl thought of him as a friend.

If all of the above it true and he has history of sexual assault, then it does appear he had planned this attack by offering to walk her home once they returned to Tamworth.

A very sad story and feel for the Uncle who would have discovered his niece in such a degrading manner. :(
 
NVP said:
Ah yes, I misinterpreted "met" as in 'first time'. Thanks for highlighting it.
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Can we go back and just rethink our posts now? He has a history of sexual abuse.

In my view he didnt intend on a lifelong friendship with this young lady.

He gained her trust Presumably by not acting like a potential murdering rapist and then siezed an opportunity to become one.

Its predatory grooming. It would be interesting to know how he interacted with his previous victims and exactly who they were to determine a pattern.
 
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The Running Man said:
There are thousands of those in the grooming gangs in this country.

Just because they are rapists doesnt mutually exclude them from grooming their victims.
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Why are you so obsessed into making this into something it isnt? He wasnt "adult grooming" and he isnt in a grooming gang. Like I have said to you already, every day there are over 100 women raped by people they know who are friends/family members in the UK. Are all of them "adult groomers"?

Why arent you banging the drum about them? Or are you very selective about who you get outraged about?
 
Greebo said:
Why are you so obsessed into making this into something it isnt? He wasnt "adult grooming" and he isnt in a grooming gang. Like I have said to you already, every day there are over 100 women raped by people they know who are friends/family members in the UK. Are all of them "adult groomers"?

Why arent you banging the drum about them? Or are you very selective about who you get outraged about?
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I'm bothered about every single one.

The difference here seems to be that this guy wasn't born to know here, wasn't fanily and wasnt a long term friend.

Given his history it seemed like he got to know her, not to be a friend for life, but for a particular purpose. It seems like he had cultivated the relationship for a specific reason.

I can flip this on its head and ask, why are you so not bothered about it? What makes you so cold hearted that you would rather argue the toss of whether it was a grooming or noble thrasher than pay your respects to the young lady who lost her life in such a horrific and tragic way?
 
The Running Man said:
I'm bothered about every single one.

The difference here seems to be that this guy wasn't born to know here, wasn't fanily and wasnt a long term friend.

Given his history it seemed like he got to know her, not to be a friend for life, but for a particular purpose. It seems like he had cultivated the relationship for a specific reason.

I can flip this on its head and ask, why are you so not bothered about it? What makes you so cold hearted that you would rather argue the toss of whether it was a grooming or noble thrasher than pay your respects to the young lady who lost her life in such a horrific and tragic way?
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Oh I am bothered, I have always been bothered about all the women raped and children sexually assaulted everyday, all the hundreds of them. You just seem obsessed by one. Thats what I find so strange. You have rapists getting to know women everyday with the only reason is they plan to rape them. Chances are one of your family, friends or work colleagues is one.
 
The Running Man said:
Can we go back and just rethink our posts now? He has a history of sexual abuse.

In my view he didnt intend on a lifelong friendship with this young lady.

He gained her trust Presumably by not acting like a potential murdering rapist and then siezed an opportunity to become one.

Its predatory grooming. It would be interesting to know how he interacted with his previous victims and exactly who they were to determine a pattern.
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Unfortuantely without knowing the actual definition of "grooming" in this sense, I will have to guess it may boil down to vulnerability?

This girl was manipulated and exploited which are traits of grooming, yet grooming isn't commonly used for adults in similar situations, only those vulnerable.

Attempting to define a difference between the two otherwise is quite hard, so I'd be happy with using the term grooming for adults too.


For this specific situation, I guess we do not know his motives - for your theory to hold he would need to have little to no attractive (to him) female friends, otherwise if he has history of platonic, non-rapey friendships with females what's to say this wasn't similar but then negatively progressed.


Without facts we have assumptions, and that is very uneven footing to stand your ground on, if you know what I mean :)
 
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