Right, self defence when does it start?

I've got a question that is slightly on topic... I've been doing kickboxing for a short while now......

The bruce lee stuff is no use when you have some 18 stone monster sat on your chest in a pub brawl. I'd bite his nose off and run like hell.
 
The bruce lee stuff is no use when you have some 18 stone monster sat on your chest in a pub brawl. I'd bite his nose off and run like hell.

Trust me, I'd be better at dealing with it now than before. It might not always help, but if it does most of the time then it's a help. Anyway, I can normally judge if I'm gnna be out of my depth in a fight - and dont tend to get myself into that situation in the first place.
 
The bruce lee stuff is no use when you have some 18 stone monster sat on your chest in a pub brawl. I'd bite his nose off and run like hell.

You'd be surprised at how effective you can use any persons weight or their ignorance in skilled hand to hand combat to your advantage.

A fat guy isn't gonna move very fast so you can avoid his hits and keep your distance. If he manages to grab hold of you there are plenty of ways of getting out of it, either turning the grapple back onto him or just kick him in the nuts.
 
Always use an open hand in situations like this, a palm strike is not a clenched fist and it shown restraint in the eyes of the law.

In court you call it a slap... :)
 
In the states, we have a "fighting words" law, that basically is someone is acting overtly aggressive (like it seems this guy was) you are well within your right to kick the crap out of him. I like that law, because you don't have the take that kind of abuse.
Sadly, if the cops were involved you'd probably be the one getting in trouble, not least because you seem like a responsible guy and "should know better."
 
The instructor runs his own club, which belongs to a nationwide company. I think the way he trains people is for in the ring fighting, and probably shouldn't have mentioned using it for anything outside the ring. He's a quality instructor, and doesn't come across as being arrogant.

When you said end the situation verbally, you mean 'the negotiator' style or 'football factory' style.

I've got a fairly quick/powerful kick - I've given my mate a nasty dead leg where he couldn't stand on it through the pads we use. Anything lower aimed at the knees or shin would hopefully take them off their feet.

I have no doubt the instructor is good at what he teaches, but as I said before, ignore his advice on using high kicks and competition fighting techniques outside of the training hall.
You may have fairly quick/poweful kicks, so do I, but all it takes is for them to catch your leg if you aim high (not that hard to do) and it's game over.
As you said, low kicks are what you want. I personally have used a low roundhouse to the side of the knee to end an altercation in one go.

When I said verbally, I mean calmly dealing with a situation - for example if you accidentally bumped in to a thug and spilled his drink, open hands up in front of you (passive / submissive stance which can be used as a fighting stance), "Really sorry mate, here let me buy you a new one". That way you've diffused the situation before it's even had chance to develop.

Sure, some people are out looking for a fight, but with them you have to massaage their ego by being the submissive one, saying how it's your fault and you don't want trouble. If you're sure they're going to kick off and not accept your apology, then half way through saying "Look mate, I don't want any tr...", you get your first shot in and make it count.

(Obviously all the advice I'm giving here are my own personal views, based on my experiences and training. In no way am I reccomending that anybody else tries it nor am I trying to inflate my own ego by making out I'm some sort of martial arts master)
 
The police did turn up this morning, i said, "sorry for wasting your time but if he makes a complaint so will I etc" so they said both drop and call it quits! Kind of a result i guess just didnt realise he really would get the police in for such a small thing oh well!

Sure, some people are out looking for a fight, but with them you have to massaage their ego by being the submissive one, saying how it's your fault and you don't want trouble. If you're sure they're going to kick off and not accept your apology, then half way through saying "Look mate, I don't want any tr...", you get your first shot in and make it count.

Ever since I've been with my misses he has been like it (and prob long time before) I put up with seeing him shout slam doors etc but not when he damages my stuff or threatens me/wife/her family
 
When I said verbally, I mean calmly dealing with a situation - for example if you accidentally bumped in to a thug and spilled his drink, open hands up in front of you (passive / submissive stance which can be used as a fighting stance), "Really sorry mate, here let me buy you a new one". That way you've diffused the situation before it's even had chance to develop.

Ha. Not nearly alpha enough. You should kill him on the spot for being too limp wristed to hold his drink properly.
 
It was domestic and he can't actually prove it, I'd think you're safe.

I wish more people would nut aggressive ***** like that, likely to think twice before acting like an idiot.

Isn't it a case of using reasonable force to ensure your safety, not, "use my ninja skills to end the guy."

Hahaha.

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Oh, just seen your post. Result! Tease him about being a girl who runs to the police, I'm sure he'll love that.
 
Ever since I've been with my misses he has been like it (and prob long time before) I put up with seeing him shout slam doors etc but not when he damages my stuff or threatens me/wife/her family

Don't blame you, I wouldn't put up with it either.
Unfortunately though, somebody like him who throws his weight around and gets physical won't be taught a lesson by somebody else getting physical with him. By the sounds of it it's the only way he knows how to express himself or attempt to remedy a situation and so if you try to beat some sense in to him it'll just compound his views on violence being the only way.

I would sit him down and talk it out with him with all of the family. Have two bigger male members of the family present to keep him sat in his chair if he tries to fly off the handle and that way you get a good mix between verbally airing any problems that he might have as well as knocking him down a peg or two without having to resort to punch ups.

It's good to talk, you've just got to find a way to make him do it.
 
I don't mean a clip round the ear.
Open hand strikes are extremely effective if done right. You make a cupping shape around your opponents ear and it can, if done correctly, burst their eardrum. Even if you don't land it perfectly, the pressure it causes is hugely dissorientating and enough to give you the opportunity to then take your opponent to the ground.

Yay, I was wondering when the first "I know martial arts and you should have used X technique, let me explain it to you in mind-numbing detail" post would crop up, they always do in these threads.:D

Just out of interest MrSix, what MA do you do, how long have you done it, and how often do you have to use it in real-life?

I've got a fairly quick/powerful kick - I've given my mate a nasty dead leg where he couldn't stand on it through the pads we use.

LOL. :D

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OP police will likely do sod all given his behavious and history, if you'd nutted an upstanding citizen then it would be entirely different. I think nutting him, while likely scaring the turd out of him for the future, was probably a bit over the top, but hey you were the one in the situation and if you felt you were about to be attacked than it really is fair game from that point.

EDIT - Just saw he actually called the police, what a vindictive little pleb! Hopefully he learns his lesson though and won't think about confronting you again like that.
 
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Do you not feel you just can't reason with some people though? I know the attitude the OP speaks of and to act like that, you're usually an unreasonable cretin.

Is that an insult to me or the other guy :confused:

Anyway I wouldn't bother chatting to the guy as its not worth it no one really wants nowt to do with him and seeing we don't live there any more don't really care tbh
 
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