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I've not used it myself, but as I understand it Campagnolo shifters are worlds apart from Shimano's thumb shift efforts. I once read someone say Shimano might have deliberately put out crap shifters to put people off Campagnolo, as though the price difference weren't enough...
 
Yeah, I've heard similar.

Still, I remember when uv bought my old bike with Sora then turned up a week later with blood stains and scabs on his thumbs... :p
 
Saytan said:
it uses powertorque and powershift, therefore it offers absolutely no real benefit over Athena. Ultratorque and ultrashift are much nicer
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A shame chorus is close to twice the price of Athena. I've got plans to build me an Italian carbon frame with a campag groupset at some point, and I was eyeing Athena, but they're discontinuing it for this ugly potenza thing and then it's ludicrously expensive chorus.
 
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Vonhelmet said:
A shame chorus is close to twice the price of Athena. I've got plans to build me an Italian carbon frame with a campag groupset at some point, and I was eyeing Athena, but they're discontinuing it for this ugly potenza thing and then it's ludicrously expensive chorus.
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a huge chunk of the difference is in the cranks, the shifters aren't that much more. Powertorque on Athena/Potenza is more annoying the maintain, but the bearings last very well, so it's not *that* big a problem.

an Athena gruppo with Chorus shifters is probably the value sweetspot
 
It's all brand new gear for that price too. I wouldn't bother with second hand to be honest not at this price especially with the miles I'm doing these days too.

I'm tempted to buy a carbon frame and the 105 gear and build my own bike. I'm also tempted to go get a Defy Advance 2 which is the bike I have my eye on.

I don't know what I'm going to do, I can't sell my bike it's not fit to sell, I'm tempted to finish off the damage on the chainstay and claim on insurance too.

But my plan is to sell my mtb and buy a cx for winter and then buy a Defy Advance 2 next year and use that as my summer bike and leave my Defy 3 in the garage on a turbo.

I don't know what to do.
 
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Next time, do the service yourself. Save a whack of cash, learn something new, have some fun and get on the bike the next day :D

I'm a big advocate for DIY bike jobs.
 
madindehead said:
it's importing random 0km 19 hours rides from Strava... Where is that data coming from?!
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Might be something to do with your sleep tracker getting confused with your normal rides? (your 'activities' for the day starting with your sleep and finishing with your ride home?)

madindehead said:
Have you checked how much the Shimano hydro brakes are separately? Guessing it's still not worth buying a cheaper disc frame, and then pricing in the extra cost of the shifters and calipers?
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Part of my reasoning at looking at the Diverge/Roubaix is the additional tech they have over your basic cheaper disc frame (things like Zertz & a better 'road' geometry). It's not a cost saving self-build exercise for me as I've already looked at that...

685's/505's are ~£350, 5800 groupset ~£250 then a Mango Point AR £250. Throw in ~£50 for a good saddle, £150 for stem/bars/seatpost and other 'bits' and it soon turns into a £1200 build. Admittedly you could sell on the shifters & brakes from the 5800 groupset and go for cheaper saddle/bars but it would still be a build north of a grand.

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For £2.5k, I'd go the whole hog and build the bike from scratch.
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See above! Basically if I can source the frame S/H for a grand (after selling off all the other components) then I'd do it as a rebuild/self build with new groupset/hydra etc. Hope to get it in less than £1800 as anything over that I would be better waiting for a <£2000 deal on a complete new setup...

SoliD said:
I gave her a right earful
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Good! I'm starting to do this more and more as I've realised the amount of cyclists too 'scared' to say something on the roads is crazy! The more motorists know they're in the wrong the less likely they are to repeat the same idiotic manoeuvres! There's some which will never learn, but most can be educated. I really do feel that it's down to us as the Police don't even seem to enforce anything these days, they just drive around looking for people on the phone! :rolleyes:

James07 said:
It's all brand new gear for that price too.<snip>
But my plan is to sell my mtb and buy a cx for winter and then buy a Defy Advance 2 next year and use that as my summer bike and leave my Defy 3 in the garage on a turbo.

I don't know what to do.
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It's a good price but only worth investing the time and money into your Defy 3 if you are going to keep it at least another year. Your 'plan' sounds very similar to mine!

If you're going to 'semi' retire the Defy to eventual turbo duties within 12 months then it's probably not worth spending that much on it now, just spend what you need to get it road worthy for this summer, saving most of your cash for the CX/winter bike. There's no harm in the CX bike being ridden in summer-autumn-winter-spring (if needs be), by which time you may have other options for next 'summer' bike! :)
 
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FrenchTart said:
Agreed...unless that thing is truing wheels or dealing with internal cable threading :p
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Yes, wheel truing is not something I've had to do. I'd give it a good go but have heard it can be a pain.

And internal cabling is a bugger if you're starting from scratch, but once you've got the cables in, replacing them is much easier. Especially if you use some of that cable tubing/line/don't know what its called stuff.
 
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Yes, wheel truing is not something I've had to do. I'd give it a good go but have heard it can be a pain.

And internal cabling is a bugger if you're starting from scratch, but once you've got the cables in, replacing them is much easier. Especially if you use some of that cable tubing/line/don't know what its called stuff.
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The one thing about my Chinese carbon frame that I would complain about is the internal routing. It's a huge huge pain to work with - much worse than any other internal routing I've dealt with. I just can't be bothered with the frustration any more.

Truing wheels is something that just seems too time consuming to bother with. I spend enough time sorting my bike out as it is :p
 
Building my planet x rt-90 (a badged open mould FM-066, basically) I can say without hesitation that internal routing is the absolute devils work. Cable goes in, cable gets.....kind of lost....probably spent as much time fiddling with cables than I did with the rest of the build. The worst part being that when I change the front or rear mech I'll have to take out the cable guide and mess with another cable that may not need changing.

The moment I have to change a cable isn't far enough away for my liking.
 
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